Militant Islam Monitor > Articles > Al Takfir Wal Hijra : 'the boy or girl next door who would slit your throat in a second' Al Takfir Wal Hijra : 'the boy or girl next door who would slit your throat in a second'March 17, 2006 Takfir Wal Hijra : 'the boy or girl next door who would slit your throat in a second' March 17, 2006 http://www.rotten.com/library/history/terrorist-organizations/al-takfir-wal-hijra/Al Takfir Wal HijraAl Takfir Wal Hijra may be the most terrifically terrifying terrorist operation in the world today. The fact that you've never heard of it is part of the problem. Al Takfir Wal Hijra means "anathema and exile" or possibly "excommunication and emigration." A theologically extreme extension of the Saudi Arabia's Wahabbi doctrines, Takfir is dedicated to restoring the Caliphate, the Islamic political empire that once spanned the Near and Middle East. Ayman Al-Zawahiri is a member of the Takfir sect. While Osama bin Laden is usually called the leader of al Qaeda, Zawahri runs the terrorist network in most meaningful respects, including ordering attacks and concocting theological justifications for killing. The founder of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad organization and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, Zawahiri is one of several international terror masterminds linked to Takfir Wal Hijra. Takfir is as fundamentalist a sect as you can imagine. Its major tenet holds that all the world's non-Muslim leaders should be overthrown by any means including (and especially) violence. Not only are infidels subject to sanctions up to and including death, but even other Muslims who don't fit the Takfir ideal. It isn't just the bloodthirstiness that makes Takfir Wal Hijra dangerous, however. It's the techniques. A major element of Takfir religious practice is subterfuge. The threat of Takfir is that its cold, heartless killers could easily be the boy or girl next door. Takfir Wal Hijra members are permitted to disregard the injunctions of Islamic law in order to blend into infidel societies. In other words, Takfirs can have sex with loose women, drink alcohol, eat pork and do whatever else they feel is appropriate to advance their mission. In the wake of September 11, and even before, the U.S. and media pundits have frequently engaged in head-scratching over the fact that terrorist operatives often don't appear to be especially Islamic. It seems paradoxical that the 9/11 hijackers could be so dedicated that they would die for the cause, but not so dedicated that they avoided picking up girls at nightclubs. "(They seem like) regular, fun-loving guys -- but they'd slit your throat or bomb your building in a second," a French official told Time Magazine. Mohammed Atta, although puritanical in his behavior, was believed to be Takfiri. He's not the only al Qaeda operative you could point the finger at. Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed went to discos, drank alcohol and dated call girls. Yousef in particular is renowned for being generally unIslamic and non-observant of prayers and fasting. Although no one has suggested openly that Yousef and KSM were Takfiri, it's hardly a stretch. Other al Qaeda operatives in the U.S. might be Takfiri, including Ali Mohammed, a senior al Qaeda operative who served with the U.S. Special Forces in the late 1980s, or Mahmud Abouhalima, who joined the NRA before getting mixed up in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. In addition to its unparalleled ability to infiltrate Western societies, Takfir also distinguishes itself for its sheer violence and cheerful lack of discrimination among its targets. Even bin Laden has been a target of Takfir killers, supposedly, during a 1996 assassination attempt in the Sudan. This rumor persists despite the fact that Takfirs fought alongside bin Laden's mujahideen in Afghanistan, which tells you something cautionary about being on the wrong side of a Takfir. The U.S. government is deeply concerned about the Takfiri movement, although you wouldn't be able to tell from the way they never talk much about it. In 2002, the Justice Department charged four men with running a Takfiri terrorist sleeper cell in Michigan. Members were charged with planning shoe bombings, airline attacks and casing the U.S. embassy in Jordan, Disneyland and a Las Vegas casino for potential attacks. The case began to disintegrate after a series of missteps and illegal acts by the Justice Department. Only two of the four were convicted, and even those convictions may not stand up to review. After those named above, the next most famous Takfir may be Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian-born Palestinian who is currently making life miserable for the U.S. in Iraq. Although little credible information is known about Zarqawi, his M.O. and stated beliefs are generally consistent with the Takfir cult. It's also worth noting that he recently attempted to stage a chemical attack on the same Jordanian embassy allegedly targeted by the Michigan cell. Strangely, there's some conventional wisdom circulating which holds that Takfir Wal Hijra was founded by Lebanese immigrant and Boston taxi cab driver Bassam Ahmed Kanj. However, there's some room for debate. It's likely that the sect (in some form) predates Kanj's involvement beginning in 1996. (He was killed in an uprising in Lebanon in 2000.) According to the Justice Department, Takfiris are guided by fatwas issued by influential radicals, like the following, issued in 1998 by Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, an exiled Egyptian cleric now imprisoned in the U.S.: Cut all links with the [United States]. Destroy them thoroughly and erase them from the face of the earth. Ruin their economies, set their companies on fire, turn their conspiracies to powder and dust. Sink their ships, bring their planes down. Slay them in the air, on land, on water. And [with the Command of Allah] kill them wherever you find them. Catch them and put them in prison. Lie in wait for them and kill these infidels. They will surely get great oppression from you. God will make you the means of wreaking a terrible revenge upon them, of degrading them. He will support you against them. He will cure the afflicted hearts of the faithful and take all anger out of their hearts. Clearly, God will have his hands full with some of these hearts. In the meantime, you can only hope that the boy or girl next door isn't planning to slit your throat any time soon. |
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The 24-page indictment said the men operated the cell from apartments in Dearborn and Detroit and provided stolen IDs, phony licenses and airport security information to help terrorists plot violent attacks in the United States, Jordan and Turkey.
Among the possible targets, the grand jury said, were Disneyland in California, the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, a hospital in Amman, Jordan, and an American air base in Incirlik, Turkey, from which U.S. warplanes patrol northern Iraq.
As the Detroit indictment was unveiled, prosecutors in Seattle also charged one man with trying to set up a terrorist training camp to support Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network.
U.S. officials said they expected several more such indictments in coming months as the FBI and other federal agencies attempt to halt the flow of money and support from the United States to terror groups overseas.
Charged in the Detroit indictment were Farouk Ali-Haimoud, 22; Ahmed Hannan, 34, and Karim Koubriti, 24, who were arrested six days after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks when federal agents raided their flat in southwest Detroit. Hannan and Koubriti have been in custody for nearly a year. Ali-Haimoud was released, but was arrested again in March and is now in custody.
Also charged was their alleged handler, a mystery man from Chicago known only as Abdella, who was indicted with the three men for misuse of fraudulent immigration documents in March, but who remains at large. A fifth man, Youssef Hmimssa, 37, a former roommate of Hannan and Koubriti, is named in the indictment but is not accused of any crime. He still faces fraudulent document charges from September.
Ali-Haimoud's lawyer, Kevin Ernst of Detroit, accused the government of building a bogus case against his client, Hannan and Koubriti in a desperate attempt to show progress in the war on terror as the Sept. 11 anniversary approaches. The government appears to be building its case on Hmimssa, Ernst said.
"As far as I can tell, it's based on this uncorroborated debriefing of this snitch, Hmimssa," Ernst said. "What's kind of scary about this is that basically every Arab person in this country is one snitch away from being on the business end of a terrorism indictment."
The government's chief prosecutor in the case, Assistant U.S. Attorney Rick Convertino, denied that.
"Those comments were unwarranted, purposefully inflammatory and wholly untrue," Convertino said. "The government intends to prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law and not through the press."
Prosecutors said the terrorist cell began to take root in Dearborn in February 1998. The indictment suggested the men were involved with an Islamic extremist movement known as Salafiyya, which became associated with Al Qaeda.
In the spring and summer of 2001, according to the indictment, Koubriti, Hannan and Ali-Haimoud obtained jobs with food vendors at Detroit's Metro Airport, where they scouted for security lapses that would allow access to planes.
Someone kept a day planner -- found during the Detroit raid last September -- that had drawings apparently depicting plans for attacks on the air base in Turkey and the hospital in Jordan, the indictment said. Agents also discovered videotapes that appeared to depict surveillance of Disneyland and the MGM casino in Las Vegas.
The indictment charged that the men were part of a worldwide plot to wage a jihad, or holy war, against the United States. It said the four men operated as a "covert underground support unit for terrorist attacks within and outside the United States, as well as a sleeper operational combat cell."
Their goal, the indictment said, was to inflict economic damage against the United States by recruiting, indoctrinating and training others in their cause. They allegedly set up safe houses and mail drops, collected intelligence information about potential terrorism targets and obtained weapons and false documents to assist with terrorist attacks that were planned in Jordan, Turkey and the United States. No known attacks were carried out.
The indictment said Ali-Haimoud, Hannan and Koubriti, who lived together in homes in the 1300 block of Riverside in Dearborn and 2600 block of Norman Street in Detroit, worked for Abdella. The indictment described Abdella as an expert in airport security operations, the fraudulent use of telephone calling cards and the manufacturing and acquisition of false identification. Abdella used many aliases, the government alleges, including Jean Pierre Tardelli, George Labibe, Hussein Mohsen Safiddine and Nabil Hayamm.
Ali-Haimoud, Hannan and Koubriti met with an unidentified man, possibly Hmimssa, in their apartment on Riverside in June 2001 to try to recruit the man to participate in the jihad, the government alleges.
The indictment said the trio planned "to elicit the other individual's assistance in bringing like-minded brothers into the United States by creating false documentation to facilitate their illegal entry into the United States and travel abroad."
When agents arrested Koubriti, Hannan and Ali-Haimoud last September, the three had not been in the agents' sights. They had gone to the flat in search of Nabil Almarabh, a former Boston cabbie,who was on the FBI's watch list of suspected terrorists. Almarabh, who was described by authorities last fall as an associate of bin Laden, had moved out of the apartment two weeks before agents arrived.
During the search, Koubriti told agents he was holding fraudulent immigration documents left by Hmimssa, a former roommate. The documents included a forged passport, visa and INS identification card. Some of them bore a Hmimssa alias -- Michael Saisa.
Although U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said in a news conference Oct. 31 that Ali-Haimoud, Hannan and Koubriti had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks, he later retracted the statement. Wednesday's indictment is the first time the government has officially accused the men of terrorist activities.
Lawyers in the case met with U.S. District Judge Gerald Rosen late Wednesday and agreed to postpone the trial, set for Sept. 17, for the four men.
The men were previously charged in indictments in September and March with multiple counts of committing fraud and misuse of visas, permits and other immigration documents. Those charges carry maximum penalties of 5 to 25 years in prison and $250,000 fines. The latest charge, providing material support or resources to terrorists, carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. If the government can prove anyone died as a result of the activities, the maximum sentence is life in prison.
Hmimssa, the man thought to be cooperating with prosecutors, was arrested in Chicago in May 2001, four months before the terrorist attacks, in an alleged credit-card fraud scheme. He is accused of persuading a waiter at a Chicago-area restaurant to scan credit card numbers of customers, which Hmimssa allegedly downloaded into a computer. Hmimssa allegedly used the credit card numbers to buy more than $100,000 worth of computer equipment and other merchandise.
On June 1, 2001, a federal judge released Hmimssa on a $25,000 unsecured bond in the Chicago case and he disappeared. In late September federal agents arrested him in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Ali-Haimoud, Hannan and Koubriti are being held in the Wayne County Jail and Hmimssa is at the federal prison at Milan.
The original target of the Detroit raid, Almarabh, was arrested Sept. 19 at a convenience store near Chicago. Although federal authorities initially said Almarabh was a close associate of bin Laden, they said in July that he wasn't involved in the terrorist attacks. Immigration officials have decided to deport him to Syria. He remains in custody in New York.
Federal officials haven't said what caused them to change their mind about Almarabh or whether he actually knew bin Laden.
Almarabh had been in the Detroit area since at least the summer of 2000, obtaining five Michigan driver's licenses in 13 months. He trained in Dearborn to drive big trucks, and earned a commercial driver's license and a permit to haul hazardous cargo.
In the Seattle case, American citizen and Muslim activist James Ujaama was accused in a two-count indictment Wednesday of trying to set up a training camp and providing support to Al Qaeda.
Ujaama's indictment came weeks after he was first arrested in Denver and held as a material witness in the terrorism investigation. He has maintained his innocence.
Investigators in Detroit and Las Vegas are looking into whether there is a connection betweenthe men indicted in Detroit Wednesday and a case unfolding in Las Vegas.
During the September raid in Detroit, agents found what they say appeared to be a surveillance video of the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. In June, 10 men were arrested in Las Vegas after attempting to cash counterfeit checks at the MGM casino. Then in July, federal authorities arrested Omar Shishani, 48, of Dearborn, at Detroit Metro Airport as he got off a plane from Indonesia. He was carrying $12 million in similar phony cashiers' checks in his bags, officials said.
None of the men in Las Vegas has been charged with terrorism-related crimes, said Natalie Collins, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office there.
Collins said she could not comment on whether a connection exists between the arrests there and Wednesday's indictments.
Contact DAVID ASHENFELTER at 313-223-4490 or [email protected]. Staff writers Tamara Audi, Ben Schmitt, Kim North Shine, Dan Shine and Niraj Warikoo contributed to this report. The Associated Press also contributed.
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/story/0,9171,1101011112-182881-4,00.html
Monday, Nov. 12, 2001
Hate Club
An in-depth look at al-Qaeda, the sprawling terror network through which Osama bin Laden exploits the borderless globe with a secret army driven by a ruthless new brand of extremism
By MICHAEL ELLIOTT
"You know that al-Qaeda exists from Algeria to the Philippines...it's everywhere." --from a conversation secretly taped by the Italian police on March 22; the speaker was Essid Sami ben Khemais, a Tunisian arrested the next month for alleged terrorist offenses
It was the worst crime in American history, and it has triggered the greatest dragnet ever known. The investigation into the atrocities of Sept. 11 has involved police forces across the U.S. and around the world. From Michigan to Malaysia, from San Diego to Ciudad del Este, Paraguay, law-enforcement agencies have been trying to figure out how the terrorists carried out their attacks, who helped them--and what they might do next. Along the way, the American public has been introduced to a confusing mass of names and faces and has learned of more links between them than any but the most nimble fingered could ever untangle. After nearly two months, there is much that we know about the global terrorist network that goes by the name of al-Qaeda--but an awful lot that is still hunch. Still, an international investigation by TIME into al-Qaeda's structure reveals that it is more global in its range, and more ruthless in its ideology, than all but its most dedicated students could have ever imagined.
The essential story of Sept. 11 is straightforward. A group of 19 men spent months in the U.S. preparing for the hijackings. The cell had earlier been headquartered in Hamburg, Germany, where its alleged ringleader, an Egyptian named Mohamed Atta, 33, had lived off and on for eight years. Atta is thought to have piloted Flight 11, the first to make impact; two of the other suspected pilots, Marwan Al-Shehhi and Ziad Samir Jarrah, were also residents of the Hamburg region. The Hamburg cell, in turn, is thought to have been an operating unit of a worldwide network of terrorists called al-Qaeda, the name of whose reclusive leader is now known all over the world: Osama bin Laden.
Al-Qaeda had its origins in the long war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. After Soviet troops invaded the country in 1979, Muslims flocked to join the local mujahedin in fighting them. In Peshawar, Pakistan, which acted as the effective headquarters of the resistance, a group whose spiritual leader was a Palestinian academic called Abdallah Azzam established a service organization to provide logistics and religious instruction to the fighters. The operation came to be known as al-Qaeda al-Sulbah--the "solid base." Much of its financing came from bin Laden, an acolyte of Azzam's who was one of the many heirs to a huge Saudi fortune derived from a family construction business. Also in Peshawar was Ayman Al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian doctor who had been a constant figure in the bewildering mosaic of radical Islamic groups since the late 1970s. Al-Zawahiri, who acted primarily as a physician in Peshawar, led a group usually called Al Jihad; by 1998, his organization was effectively merged into al-Qaeda.
In 1989, while on his way with his two sons to Friday prayers in Peshawar, Azzam was killed by a massive explosion. His killers have never been identified; Azzam had many enemies. But by the time of his death, the group around al-Qaeda were debating what to do with the skills and resources that they had acquired. The decision was taken to keep the organization intact and use it to fight for a purer form of Islam. The initial target was not the U.S. but the governments of Saudi Arabia and Egypt, which al-Qaeda claimed were corrupt and too beholden to the U.S. It was only after the Gulf War, by which time bin Laden had moved his operations to Sudan (he would later be forced to shift back to Afghanistan), that he started to target Americans. To all but insiders, he first became notorious in 1998, when al-Qaeda operatives exploded truck bombs at the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 12 Americans and hundreds of locals. Since then there has been a steady drumbeat of attacks linked to al-Qaeda--some successful, some not--on American targets and those of U.S. allies around the world.
Al-Qaeda has its headquarters in training camps in Afghanistan. In addition to directing its own attacks, it acts as an umbrella group, financing and subcontracting operations to local networks like Algeria's Armed Islamic Group (gia), a terrorist organization active throughout Europe. The camps in Afghanistan play a vital role. Whatever network they may originally have been aligned with, visitors to the camps meet men from other groups, forge relationships and acquire the stature of soldiers in a holy war. The high command of the group includes bin Laden, al-Zawahiri and Abu Zubaydah, a Saudi-born Palestinian who was identified in an American court case in July as the organizer of the camps and who investigators believe may be al-Qaeda's director of international operations.
Some of the best leads on al-Qaeda's directorate now seem to be coming from Djamel Beghal, a French-Algerian who is suspected of being an al-Qaeda ringleader and who was arrested in Dubai in July on his way from Pakistan to Europe. After being convinced by Islamic scholars in Dubai of the evils of terrorism, Beghal started talking. (He is now back in France and has attempted to retract his confession.) Beghal has said that while in Afghanistan in March, he received instructions from Abu Zubaydah on a bombing campaign against American interests in Europe, including the Paris embassy. "He's talking about very important figures in the al-Qaeda structure, right up to bin Laden's inner circle," a European official told TIME. "He's mentioned names, responsibilities and functions--people we weren't even aware of before. This is important stuff."
Though al-Qaeda has its roots in Afghanistan, investigators now think that the "Afghan" nature of the group is subtly changing. The war against the Soviets ended in 1991. Increasingly, al-Qaeda's captains in the field are too young ever to have fought in Afghanistan, though some may have joined Islamic brigades in Chechnya--or in Bosnia, as Abu Zubaydah did. Many of the new fighters were born and raised not in the Arab lands but in the Muslim communities of Europe, around which they travel with ease. And there is a growing sense that a number of them are "Takfiris," followers of an extremist Islamic ideology called Takfir wal Hijra (Anathema and Exile). That's bad news: by blending into host communities, Takfiris attempt to avoid suspicion. A French official says they come across as "regular, fun-loving guys--but they'd slit your throat or bomb your building in a second."
In addition to the ruthless nature of al-Qaeda's soldiers, investigators now also appreciate just how extensive are its tentacles. In mid-October, for example, NATO forces in Bosnia foiled a plot to attack U.S. and British targets there. Bensayah Belkacem, an Algerian thought to be at the center of a Bosnia-based terror group, had the number of Abu Zubaydah on a chit of paper in his apartment. On Oct. 28, Abu Sayyaf, a terrorist group in the Philippines that authorities believe has been supported in the past by al-Qaeda, bombed a food market, killing six people. And the Ugandan government announced that it had detained eight men on suspicion of belonging to al-Qaeda. How did one organization with an extremist ideology manage to acquire a reach that trembles governments from Bosnia to the Philippines to Uganda?
The Borderless World
"Globalization means interdependence," says Edmund Hull, U.S. ambassador to Yemen and former State Department counterterrorism chief. "We have previously seen the benefits of this interdependence. Now we are seeing its risks." That goes to the heart of any attempt to understand al-Qaeda. For the past decade, globalization has been understood as an economic process, rooted in the trade of goods and services. But the defining characteristic of our new world is not the movement of products or money but of people. Cheap air transport, the effects of decolonization and a population explosion in the poorer parts of the world have combined to create an unprecedented movement of humanity from one nation to another. Travel and emigration have broadened the mind and brought unparalleled opportunities to countless families. But they have also helped create havens for those seduced by the romance of terrorism.
French investigators believe Kamel Daoudi is one such recruit; his tale illuminates both the nature of modern terrorist cells and their global reach. Daoudi was the kind of child that immigrant parents dream of having. The son of Algerians who had immigrated to France, he took the tough post-high school exams a year early and started to study computer sciences at a university in Paris. But he found the courses difficult, and according to reports, a family row exploded in 1999 when Daoudi's father found evidence of his son's appointments with psychiatrists. Daoudi left for Britain, his pockets bulging with the $11,000 his family had saved for his education.
On Sept. 21, he made the same trip; this time, running not from his family but from the law. Daoudi slipped away from his apartment on the Boulevard John F. Kennedy after police across Europe started to round up the network that Beghal had assembled for his operations. (French investigators think Daoudi was the computer-and-communications whiz kid of the group.) Daoudi knew Britain well. He and Beghal had hung out there with Jerome Courtailler, one of two French brothers who had converted to Islam. For a while, Courtailler lived in south London with Zacarias Moussaoui, another French child of disappointed immigrant parents. Moussaoui grew up in the southern French town of Narbonne but left for Britain in 1992 and took a degree at London's South Bank University. Earlier this year, he enrolled in an Oklahoma flight school that had been visited by two of the Sept. 11 hijackers, and German authorities say he had called the house in Hamburg used by Atta. In August, after suspicious behavior at another flight school in Minnesota, Moussaoui was arrested on immigration charges. Today he is incarcerated in the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, refusing to speak to investigators. Daoudi, who was picked up in the British town of Leicester, sits silent in a French jail. "He isn't giving an inch," says a French official. His lawyer denies that Daoudi has ever been involved in plotting terrorist attacks.
Children of immigrants, Muslims in Europe, highly skilled, Daoudi and Moussaoui epitomize the kind of person investigators now think provides some of al-Qaeda's key recruits. Above all, both men were true global citizens; Moussaoui, a child of the warm south, ended up in the state where ice fishing is a favorite sport. As they dig deeper, law-enforcement agencies are beginning to understand just how effectively globalization has spread terrorism around the planet.
Consider two countries half a world apart and far from the Islamic heartlands: the Philippines and Britain. It was in Manila, that most Catholic of cities, that Mohammed Sadeek Odeh found his vocation. Sentenced to life imprisonment on Oct. 18 for his part in the 1998 bombings of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, Odeh seemed to have lived the predictable life of an al-Qaeda operative--he was born to exiled Palestinians in Saudi Arabia and grew up in Jordan. Yet he turned to radical Islam while studying engineering in the Philippines. It was there that Odeh first saw and heard videos and taped messages from Abdallah Azzam. In 1990 Odeh moved to Pakistan, and from there to the camps in Afghanistan and a new life as a soldier in al-Qaeda.
Other Muslims who had studied in the Philippines maintained links there. It was from Manila that Ramzi Yousef, the convicted mastermind behind the first World Trade Center bombing, hatched a plan to blow up 12 American airliners as they flew over the Pacific. In the mid-1990s, Mohammed Jamal Khalifa, married to one of bin Laden's sisters, allegedly funded Islamic schools in the south of the country, where Muslim insurgents have been fighting for years. The Filipino government has long claimed that Abu Sayyaf, the most bloodthirsty of the groups--its specialty is beheadings--has been supported by al-Qaeda. Abdurajak Janjalani, the group's late founder, fought in Afghanistan, reportedly with bin Laden and Yousef. The links may be a thing of the past; these days Abu Sayyaf's style runs more to kidnapping and ransom than to jihad. Still, Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo recently said Khalifa had offered to secure the release by Abu Sayyaf of 18 hostages, including an American missionary couple.
About the only thing that Manila has in common with London is damp--that and a reputation for giving succor to terrorist supporters. Britain has always had a habit of providing safe haven to political refugees; that's why Karl Marx is buried in Highgate cemetery. But in the past 20 years, says Neil Partrick, a Middle East analyst at the Royal United Services Institute, London has become "the capital of the Arab world." As they used to say in Britain: Whoever lost the Lebanese civil war, London won it. With Beirut in ruins, banks relocated from Lebanon; they were followed by Arabs from Saudi Arabia and the gulf who summered in Kensington Gardens, journalists, members of opposition groups--and radical Islamic clerics.
One such preacher, Abu Hamza al-Masri, arrived in 1981, having left one eye and both hands in Afghanistan. He was granted British citizenship in 1985, and his mosque in Finsbury Park, tucked among Victorian row houses one tube stop from Arsenal's soccer stadium, has become famous worldwide for preaching jihad. Moussaoui, the Courtailler brothers and Beghal all attended prayers there. Beghal is said also to be a follower of Abu Qatada, a radical who preached jihad from a community center on Baker Street and whose bank account, allegedly with $270,000 in it, was frozen by the Bank of England in mid-October.
London's dirty secret is that it has long been a recruiting ground for terrorists. French authorities moan with frustration at the lack of British cooperation. For years the French were unable to get London to extradite suspected members of the Algeria-based gia, responsible for a wave of bombings in Paris in the mid-1990s. The U.S. hasn't always had better luck; Americans have been trying to get their hands on Khalid al-Fawwaz, a London-based Saudi alleged to have set up an office for bin Laden in 1994 and now wanted for trial in relation to the African embassy bombings. (Al-Fawwaz's legal maneuverings have just reached Britain's highest court.)
The gears of British justice are starting to grind more quickly. London has detained and questioned a number of Sept. 11 suspects, including Lotfi Raissi, an Algerian alleged to have helped train the suicide pilots in the attacks. And last week Yasser al-Siri, whose bookstore and website are well known in London, was charged with conspiracy to murder Ahmed Shah Massoud, the leader of the anti-Taliban Afghan Northern Alliance. Massoud died after assassins bombed his headquarters on Sept. 9.
But al-Siri's case demonstrates the oddities of the international legal system. He is in Britain on asylum from Egypt, where he was sentenced to death for the attempted murder of the Prime Minister in 1993, a charge he denies. "That was a military court," he told Time before his arrest. "I'm a civilian." Governments across Western Europe, their feet held to the fire by strong civil-liberties groups, have been protective of the rights of refugees and asylum seekers. And while the European Union has demolished barriers to the movement of goods and people, its 15 nations have been slow to develop common institutions of criminal justice and investigation. For Atta and his cell of alleged conspirators in Hamburg, the characteristics of modern European life were a godsend. In addition to the hijackers known to have lived there, other men alleged to be part of the Hamburg cell have had arrest warrants issued for them: Said Bahaji, Zakariya Essabar and Ramzi Binalshibh. German officials believe that last spring both Essabar and Binalshibh tried to get to the U.S. to take flying lessons. The three almost certainly arrived in Pakistan from Germany on Sept. 4 and have since gone to ground--possibly in Afghanistan.
Hamburg was an ideal long-term base; 1 in 7 of the city's population is foreign, as is 1 in 5 of the students at Atta's college. (Foreign students pay no tuition in Germany.) Atta and his friends could have stayed as long as they liked--Germany invented the perpetual student--since they had legal residence, could travel freely around the E.U. or leave it for a period, without arousing suspicion. It is hard to think of a way of life that so epitomized the promise of a borderless world and then perverted globalization to such an evil end.
Young and Ruthless
After seven weeks of investigations there is no hard evidence that links the Hamburg cell to any other. There are fragments of a puzzle--Atta made a 10-day trip to Spain from Miami in July that continues to bother investigators, while French sources still think that Moussaoui may be connected to the Hamburg cell--but many pieces are missing.
For example: Was Mohammed Bensakhria, an Algerian arrested in June by Spanish police, bin Laden's key European lieutenant? If so, is there an American equivalent--and has he been picked up in the dragnet after the attacks? Did al-Qaeda's reputed training-camp chief Abu Zubaydah leave Afghanistan before Sept. 11, as European officials believe, and if so, where is he and what is he doing?
On one matter, however, European investigators are clear: there is something truly ruthless about the suspected terrorists they are finding. After six Algerians were picked up in Spain in September, police found videotapes in the apartment of one of the men. One tape showed four Algerian soldiers, with their throats cut, dying in a burning jeep.
For experts in terrorism, such incidents are suggestive. In Egypt in the 1960s, the Islamic ideology Takfir wal Hijra began to win adherents among extremist groups. One of them, the Society of Muslims, was led by Shukri Mustafa, an agricultural engineer. Mustafa denounced other Muslims as unbelievers and preached a "withdrawal" into a purity of the kind practiced by the Prophet Muhammad when he withdrew from Mecca to Medina. The ideology is particularly dangerous because it provides a religious justification for slaughtering not just unbelievers but also those who think of themselves as Muslim. Intensely undemocratic--for to accept the authority of anyone but God would be a blasphemy--Takfir wal Hijra is a sort of Islamic fascism.
European analysts now believe that Takfir thinking has won converts among terrorist groups. Beghal is Takfiri, and Daoudi is thought to be. Roland Jacquard, one of the world's leading scholars on Islamic terrorism, says flatly, "Atta was Takfiri." It is not just soldiers of al-Qaeda who may be following the Takfir line. Mustafa was executed in 1978, but his ideas lived on; the beliefs of al-Zawahiri's Al Jihad were dominated by Takfiri themes. Azzam Tamimi, director of the Institute of Islamic Political Thought in London, says of Zawahiri, "He is their ideologue now...His ideas negate the existence of common ground with others."
Bin Laden and al-Qaeda may have learned, by violent experience, to pre-empt and harness the new fanaticism. In late 1995, bin Laden's compound in Khartoum was attacked by gunmen believed to be Takfiri. A Sudanese friend of bin Laden's who questioned the surviving attacker said, "He was like a maniac, more or less like the students in the U.S.A. who shoot other students. They don't have very clear objectives." By the time al-Qaeda had resettled in Afghanistan, ideological training was an integral part of the curriculum, according to a former recruit who went on to bomb the U.S. embassy in Nairobi. Students were asked to learn all about demolition, artillery and light-weapon use, but they were also expected to be familiar with the fatwas of al-Qaeda, including those that called for violence against Muslim rulers who contradicted Islam--a basic Takfiri tenet. French terrorism expert Jacquard describes Takfiri indoctrination this way: "Takfir is like a sect: once you're in, you never get out. The Takfir rely on brainwashing and an extreme regime of discipline to weed out the weak links and ensure loyalty and obedience from those taken as members."
The results of the boot camps are die-hard but undetectable soldiers of the movement. "The Takfir," says Jacquard, "are the hard core of the hard core: they are the ones who will be called upon to organize and execute the really big attacks." French officials think that Takfiri beliefs have bred a distinct form of terrorism. "The goal of Takfir," says one, "is to blend into corrupt societies in order to plot attacks against them better. Members live together, will drink alcohol, eat during Ramadan, become smart dressers and ladies' men to show just how integrated they are."
For law-enforcement officials, the Takfiri connection is terrible news. By assimilating into host societies--some won't even worship with other Muslims--it's easy for Takfiris to escape detection. Those stories of the Sept. 11 hijackers drinking in bars and carousing in Las Vegas may now have an explanation. Jarrah's cousin Salim, who lives in the German town of Greifswald, claims that they "used to go to church more than to the mosque." Jarrah, says Salim, loved discos--"We didn't need veiled women and all that"--and sneaked shots of whiskey during a family wedding. He makes Jarrah sound like a normal guy, and normal guys aren't easy to catch.
Bolting the Door
Those charged with catching terrorists won't stop trying. And governments are reassessing their policies on immigration, asylum and open borders. New legislation is promised in Canada, Britain and Germany; the talks this year when Mexican and American officials seriously considered not tightening, but liberalizing, their immigration policies now bear the sad echo of a lost world.
The American refugee program, which had been responsible for bringing about 80,000 people into the U.S., is barely alive; President Bush hasn't signed its annual authorization. Last week Bush announced further measures to bolt the nation's door, including the formation of a Foreign Terrorist Tracking Task Force to coordinate federal efforts to keep terrorists out and hunt them down if they slip in. Authorities will now check to see that those who enter the U.S. on student visas actually attend school. But there is an air of desperation to the proposals. "This was not an immigration failure; it was an intelligence failure," says Charles Keely, professor of international migration at Georgetown University.
In Washington, the Immigration and Naturalization Service is regarded as a mess; even its spokesman, Russ Bergeron, says it has "languished for decades." In 1996 Congress told the INS to set up a computer system to track those who come into the U.S. on student visas; but with some 600,000 such people in a country with more than 22,000 educational institutions, the system is not yet up and running. Only one of the 19 hijackers entered on a student visa. Can screenings in foreign countries be tightened? Maybe, but all 19 were run through a computerized "watch list" of suspected terrorists when they applied for visas (at least six were interviewed personally). Nothing turned up. In any event, as Kathleen Newland, co-director of the Migration Policy Institute in Washington, says, "The facts remain the same." Globalization will continue to spin people around the world. The U.S. will continue to have two enormous land borders with peaceful neighbors; we're never going to see watch towers along the 49th parallel. Each year, says Newland, there are 489 million border crossings into the U.S., involving 127 million passenger vehicles; each year, 820,000 planes and 250,000 ships enter U.S. airspace or waters. However terrorism is beaten, it won't be by American border controls.
Will it be by war? In the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11, there was a hope that police work might be able to rid the world of al-Qaeda and its associates. But the more we know of bin Laden's group, the less that seems likely, and not just because its operatives are ruthlessly fanatic.
Perhaps the single most important truth learned in seven weeks is the existence of a creepy camaraderie, an international bond among terrorists. Those ties are forged in Afghanistan. "The one thing that absolutely everyone involved in terrorist groups has in common," says a European official, "is passage through the al-Qaeda camps. When leaders are sent from Afghanistan to start organizing people, there are no questions asked: the camp experience allows everyone to recognize the bona fides of jihad." The B-52s pounding away from 40,000 ft. may not look like sleuths and cops. But if al-Qaeda's sinister appeal and global reach are ever to be broken, the bombers too must play their part.
With reporting by Reported by Bruce Crumley/Paris, Helen Gibson and James L. Graff/London, Scott MacLeod/Cairo and Viveca Novak/Washington, with other bureaus
MIM: Information on the founder of Al Takfir Al Hijra :
http://www.pwhce.org/shukri.html
Biography Shukri Mustafa was born on 1st June 1942, in the village of Abu Khurus, 30 kilometres south of Asyut in Middle Egypt, a short distance from the Qutb family home town of Musha. The area has been described as a breeding ground for Islamists, and in the rare occasions that Egyptian police penetrated to Abu Khurus, the villagers hid in caves near the village. In his youth, Shukri was relocated to Asyut, after his father repudiated his mother.1 1 Gilles Kepel, Muslim Extremism in Egypt, p73. In 1965, while studying agricultural sciences at an Islamic-run agricultural college, Shukri was arrested for distributing Muslim Brotherhood literature.2 The Muslim Brotherhood is a Salafi organisation that was founded by Hassan al-Banna in 1928 with the goal of establishing an Islamic State in Egypt as a prelude to a pan-Islamic Caliphate. 2 Kepel, p74. Jama'at al-Muslimun aka Takfir w'al-Hijra During his stay in Abu Zubal prison, Shukri was part of a Muslim Brotherhood splinter group, Jama'at al-Muslimun (Muslim Society), which implemented a particularly radical interpretation of Sayyid Qutb's text Ma'alim fi'l-Tariq (Milestones on the Road). The group separated itself from the other prisoners and declared them to be infidels on the basis that they were willing to collaborate with the regime of Gamal Abd al-Nasser against Israel.3 Although the group broke up when its leader was convinced by scholars that he was in error, Shukri Mustafa re-founded the group outside prison in 1971,4 after the Egyptian Government liberalised its policies towards Muslim radicals under President Anwar Sadat. 3 Emmanuel Sivan, Radical Islam: Medieval Theology and Modern Politics, 1990, p16. Shukri's Jama'at al-Muslimun practiced a radical withdrawal from jahili5 society, rejecting the allegedly corrupt practices of contemporary Egyptians. According to Shukri's group, their nascent 'true' Islamic society (jama'at) was in a 'phase of weakness' analogous to that experienced by Muhammad during his period of Da'wa (preaching) in Mecca. Before direct action could be brought to bear by the group, it had to build its strength in isolation, which necessitated migration (hijra) away from the corrupting influence of jahili society. 5 Jahiliyya means the state of pagan pre-Islamic ignorance. The definition of jahiliyya was expanded in the works of Ibn Taymiyya and still further by Maulana Maududi, to encompass all of 'apostate' society. The name al-Takfir w'al-Hijra was applied to Jama'at al-Muslimin by journalists after the group became publicly known. As a descriptive name Takfir w'al-Hijra has far more utility than Jama'at al-Muslimin. Takfir is a verb which means to declare kufr (infidel), that is, to excommunicate. The Hijra is the flight or migration of Muhammad and his jama'at from Mecca to Yathrib (Medina) in 622 AD. Takfir w'al-Hijra's modus operandi during the 'phase of weakness' is summed up by Shukri's statement: If the Jews or anyone else came, our movement ought not to fight in the ranks of the Egyptian army, but on the contrary ought to flee to a secure position. In general, our line is to flee before the external and internal enemy alike, and not to resist him.6 6 Kepel, pp83-84. This quote sums up the aspects of Shukri's ideology that Muhammad Abd al-Salam Faraj emphatically rejected. The next few paragraphs will explore the different ideas embedded in the quote. Takfir wa'l-Hijra's migration took three forms. · Initially, the group travelled to caves in the mountains, away from populated areas. · Some men in the group travelled to oil-bearing states such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, to earn money and enrich the organisation. After such a tour, the man was entitled to take a wife. · Married couples in the group lived communally in rented 'furnished apartments', in which they attempted to create an ideal Islamic community.7 7 Kepel, pp89-90. Takfir wa'l-Hijra's I'tizal or separation from Egyptian Society, which was expressed by the doctrine of hijra, remains important to radical Islamists today. It was also tied up with the idea that the supposedly jahili Egyptian state and society were a polluting influence to be avoided. Unlike the more 'moderate' heirs of the Muslim Brotherhood, which collaborated with the Egyptian regime, the takfiris considered the Egyptian state to be at least as objectionable as Israel.8 This distinction between takfiri radicals and collaborationist reformers continues to be an important division in Salafism. Ayman al-Zawahiri's early pamphlet, The Road to Jerusalem Passes Through Cairo, was an example of the takfiri emphasis on attacking the "near" or "internal" enemy (the apostate state) before the "far" or "external" enemy (Israel or the West). Al-Qaeda's break from the "Egypt first" policy during the 1990s created controversy amongst takfiri Salafis for this reason. 8 Kepel, p84. Ijtihaad and Maddhabs Another aspect of Shukri Mustafa's creed that is quintessentially Salafist is his rejection of the traditional schools of Sunni Islam, the Maddhabs. Mustafa believed that the Great Imams, the four ninth century scholars whose study of the sources of Islamic law had established four schools of mainstream Sunni Islamic law, had in fact placed themselves between man and God, usurping His prerogatives. The closure of the Baab al-Ijtihaad, or gate of interpretation, that followed the death of the last Great Imam, was decried by Mustafa. He proposed that the Qur'an and Ahadith4 be directly interpreted by Muslims, re-opening the baab al-ijtihaad. His radical theory is illustrated by this quote: We would like to call your attention to the following fact: Islam has been in decline ever since men have ceased to draw their lessons directly from the Qur'an and the Sunna, and have instead followed the tradition of other men, those who call themselves imams.9 9 Kepel pp79-80. Education and Science Shukri Mustafa's creed rejected modern education and science on the basis that there is no science except in God. He said that The Muslim is obligated to seek his path and knowledge before God alone, and so-called knowledge, which is actually no knowledge at all because it is not founded in the Lord, is forbidden. This marked an important point in Salafism's gradual turning away from modernist rationalism. Placed alongside his views about rationalist interpretation of the Qur'an, this point of view reveals the contradictory nihilism of contemporary takfiri radicalism, which, by rejecting both modernist rationalism and traditionalism, is left with no rudder but the most base of human instincts, resulting in a descent into violence and alienation from humanity. In the hands of takfiri Salafism, the enigmatic living religion of Islam becomes merely an instrument of politics. Although Mustafa Shukri's rejection of modern, western, scientific modernism may seem to lend support to the common perception that Islamic radicalism can be cured by increased education, particularly in the western sciences. However, ironically, around 80% of Takfir w'al-Hijra members were University educated, frequently in western 'professional' disciplines. Demise In mid-1977, the Egyptian authorities got wind of Takfir w'al-Hijra's activities, when an early 'raid' by the group was foiled. The organisation was rapidly wound up and Egyptian society was scandalised, as it became clear that many impressionable young people, often from well-to-do backgrounds, had been caught up in this strange sect. Shukri Mustafa's court testimony did little to assuage this scandal. Demise Shukri Mustafa was executed on 19th March 1978.10 In terms of its objectives, Mustafa's model failed. His group had failed to go beyond the initial 'phase of weakness', much less launch a wide-ranging jihad toppling the apparatus of state. Amongst those who agreed with Qutb's excommunication (takfir) of Egyptian society, the doctrine of migration (hijra) and separation from society during the stage of weakness had received a blow. It was roundly rejected by influential Egyptian Islamic takfiri Salafis such as Faraj. However, the doctrine of hijra was not forgotten by other thinkers. Al-Qaeda mastermind al-Zawahiri synthesised Mustafa's and Faraj's ideologies in Afghanistan to produce al-Qaeda's doctrine of hijra, which is the paradigm for most Salafi terrorist groups today. Further Research Although all the books listed in the bibliography are useful sources on Egyptian Islamic radicalism, readers wishing to know more about Shukri Mustafa, Takfir w'al-Hijra and contemporary Egyptian Islamic radicalism should start with Gilles Kepel's excellent book, Muslim Extremism in Egypt: The Prophet and Pharaoh.
Zohurul Bari, Re-Emergence of the Muslim Brothers in Egypt, p69.
4 Kepel, p105.
Mustafa's radically 'reformationist' Salafism was typified by his assertion in court that the only help a man needs to understand the Qur'an is a dictionary.
MIM: Dutch postings on an internet forum about Takfir Wal Hijra
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http://forums.marokko.nl/archive/index.php/t-395174.html Nimr 23-10-2004, 02:26 Wat een groot tegenstelling is er tussen diegenen die naar de arena's van voorbereiding en slagvelden van Jihad kijken als een ontbering en afscheiding van vaders ,zonen en een gevaar voor het leven en rijkdom; in tegenstelling tot diegenen die naar de slagvelden van Jihad kijkt als de markten van het Paradijs , met open deuren, vrezend dat hij een uur te laat zou zijn en zij zich zouden kunnen sluiten zonder hen ."
abu hafs 23-10-2004, 02:47 Wat een groot tegenstelling is er tussen diegenen die naar de arena's van voorbereiding en slagvelden van Jihad kijken als een ontbering en afscheiding van vaders ,zonen en een gevaar voor het leven en rijkdom; in tegenstelling tot diegenen die naar de slagvelden van Jihad kijkt als de markten van het Paradijs , met open deuren, vrezend dat hij een uur te laat zou zijn en zij zich zouden kunnen sluiten zonder hen ."
salam oe3likoem
je bent een zielige tekvieri
najibsri 23-10-2004, 03:07 salam oe3likoem
je bent een zielige tekvieri
Online :confused: :confused: :confused: ??????????????????????
najibsri 23-10-2004, 03:08 Online :confused: :confused: :confused: ??????????????????????
Oh nee jij bent die ABUHAFS NIET...Excuse me... debiel
Zwaard 23-10-2004, 13:19 Wat een groot tegenstelling is er tussen diegenen die naar de arena's van voorbereiding en slagvelden van Jihad kijken als een ontbering en afscheiding van vaders, zonen en een gevaar voor het leven en rijkdom; in tegenstelling tot diegenen die naar de slagvelden van Jihad kijkt als de markten van het Paradijs, met open deuren, vrezend dat hij een uur te laat zou zijn en zij zich zouden kunnen sluiten zonder hen."
La hawla wa la quwatta illa billah! Magnifiek..
SjeikhAzzam 23-10-2004, 15:12 salam oe3likoem
je bent een zielige tekvieri
Iedereen die van Bin Laden houdt is een takfieri toch? JIJ ben echt zielig.
khadisja25 23-10-2004, 16:45 Wat een groot tegenstelling is er tussen diegenen die naar de arena's van voorbereiding en slagvelden van Jihad kijken als een ontbering en afscheiding van vaders ,zonen en een gevaar voor het leven en rijkdom; in tegenstelling tot diegenen die naar de slagvelden van Jihad kijkt als de markten van het Paradijs , met open deuren, vrezend dat hij een uur te laat zou zijn en zij zich zouden kunnen sluiten zonder hen ."
Macha allah!!!!!!!!!! Pagina's : 1 [2] 3 4
khadisja25 25-10-2004, 15:17 men weet dat Osama bin Laden een khariji is, Shaikh alFawzan (hafidahullah) nog gezegd van hem, dus in welk opzicht wij houden van hem ?
en wat betreft takfir, hij is duidelijk de man problematisch maken met takfir, dus eenieder houden van hem vanwege zijn onrechtmatige takfir hoezo niet takfiri ? al-Walaa wal-baraa houd ook de in van je haat zonden en bidah
wij houden van de man vanwege zijn islaam maar wij haten van de man van zijn zonde en bidah
en moge Allaah ons leiden
Ik HEb laatst in een topic hier gelezen dat er ook zat geleerden zijn die hem prijzen. Zijn die geleerden dan ook onnoveerders en/of zondaars? Weten die geleerden dan ook niet wat al-walaa wal-baraa inhoudt? Waarom zou het woord van Fawzaan zwaarder wegen tegenover de andere geleerden? Leg 's uit?
Aboe Qataadah 25-10-2004, 15:27 men weet dat Osama bin Laden een khariji is, Shaikh alFawzan (hafidahullah) nog gezegd van hem, dus in welk opzicht wij houden van hem ?
volgens saalih luhaydane niet
Akarzyan 25-10-2004, 16:29 Je hebt ze op een kundige wijze de mond gesnoerd, Famailysalafy! :hoedaf:
khadisja25 25-10-2004, 16:30 En nog een vraagje, weet je wie Shaikh Salih alFawzan hafidahullah is?
Salam alaikum
Fawzaan was toch de leerling van sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi? En sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi heeft de aanval van 11-9 wel geprezen, toch?
Family_Salafy 25-10-2004, 16:44 Salam alaikum
Fawzaan was toch de leerling van sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi? En sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi heeft de aanval van 11-9 wel geprezen, toch?
Wat heb ik nou gezegd, het is de Jarh wa Ta3deel die ik gezegd heb, geen inhoud daarover ?
Als de lering is ten opzichte van Jarh wa Ta3deel dan zou mij zeggen van, ok is goed, ahsanti, maar de zicht is slechts beperkt op het niet weten waarom men dat zegt.
ok alles op een rijtje:
aanval 11-9 hadden we het niet eens over !!!! dat was aan Aboe Qataadah gericht ten opzichte van Allamah Luhaydan.. moest dat beter onderzoeken wilden ze begrijpen wat de werkelijkheid daarvan is.
dus ok, sjeikh Hammoed al Uqla Asjoeaibi geprezen de 11-9 ? Wat nu ? ga maar lekker in een hoekje huilen
het zijn de geleerden die allen over eens zijn aanval 11-9 fout was, ga maar nakijken, en als er even een student van de kennis prijst de 11-9 wil dat gelijk zeggen wij volgen hem en kijken niet meer naar geleerden? Sobhan Allah
Fawzan = leerling Sjoeaibi
ik heb ook als leraar mijnheer Jansen gehad, maar ben geen christen
evenzowel goed, dan begrijpt de mevrouw dat ze word gevoerd door simpele zielen die worden gevoerd door simpele zielen. Hoe zielig !
Akarzyan 25-10-2004, 16:45 Salam alaikum
Fawzaan was toch de leerling van sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi? En sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi heeft de aanval van 11-9 wel geprezen, toch?
Speculeren.
Bovendien gaat het erom of de geleerden NU zulke aanvallers steunen! ;)
Aboe Qataadah 25-10-2004, 16:46 Niet gek gaan worden Aboe Qataadah, sinds wanneer zie jij de Allamah Saalih alLuhaydan als geleerde ?
Nee wat ik wil laten zi8en is dat er binnen de Sekte van jullie verschillende dingen hoor zo te zien is er geen eenheid jammer, dit is echt spelen een zegt hij is een Kharidjie en een zegt nee hij is van Ahloe-us-Soennah dit is echt groot verschil..
n oke, neem de Allamah Saalih alLuhaydan, wat heeft deze gezegd over de vliegtuigaanvallen van 11 september 2001 in de Amerika? Heeft hij gezegd dat ze gezegend waren ?
de leraar van Saalih Al-Luhaydaan en de leraar van fawzaan heeft de gezegende aanvallen goedgekeurd, namelijk `allaamah Hammud Ibn al-`uqla en allaamah ali khudair en naaser al-fahed en muhadith al-`allaamah sulamain Ibn Naasir al-`ulwaan en sheikh Yusuf Al-Uyayri en sheikh abu qataadah hebben ook deze Jihad-Operaties goedgekeurd, allemaal `ulamaa van Ahloe-us-Soennah wal Djamaa`ah...allemaal geleerden van nu.
OH, maar nu begrijp ik het, je bent een beetje in de war, geeft niks hoor broedertje, goed leren, dan komen zij er wel
khayran
dan:
leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer al-Walaa wal-baraa,
leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer al-Jarh wat-Ta3deel,
dan begrijp je het misschien
als je zo doorgaat bij de groeperingen van die en die dan zul je nooit de waarheid zien
de fake-selefies geleerden zijn in de war er is geen eenheid bij hen ze doen de Islaam geen eer aan. Zoals ik zei eentje zegt hij is een kharidjie een hond van de hel en eentje zegt hij is van Ahloe-us-Soennah zo ken je zien wat voor fitna gaande is.
Geef je die advies ook aan je zelf want volgens mij heb je niks begrepen van de `aqeedatul walaa wal baraa.
En over de Takfeer van sahab.org over ameer abu mus`ab al-zarqawi (hafidahullah wa ra3aah) zal ik later geven ik had hem al eerder geplaatst hie rop Marokko.nl zodra ik thuis ben zal ik er op zoek gaan.
khadisja25 25-10-2004, 17:08 Is deze uitdaging alleen voor hem of...?
Jij hebt de tekst van je broeder Qatada vast niet gelezen anders zou je zelf al zijn onzin verwerpen!
Ik vertrouw eerder op de geleerden die abu qatadaah heeft genoemd dan jouw reactie... :p
khadisja25 25-10-2004, 17:21 de eerste van is heb geen zin om in een eindeloze discussie te komen, heb beters te doen, aangezien jullie niks beters te doen hebben dan eindeloze discussies te houden, zou ik zeggen, ga eens lekker tegen elkaar discussieren, kom op man, er zijn vast nog wel punten waarover jullie verschillen, ja jij en aboe qataadah precies ja, nou als jullie dat zo leuk vinden ga ervoor zou ik zeggen.
Wat betreft de reactie van aboe qataadah, deze is nog niet klaar zoals hij zelf al aangaf, dus niet te vroeg juichen !!!
ik ga niet beginnen met een weerlegging alvorens zijn post helemaal klaar is de begrip is bij u hopelijk, begrijpt u ?
Noem mij er 1 (levend en van ahlus-sunnah)
Waar blijft je vredesgroet? Of ben je niet van ahloe-sunnah?
Abu qatadaah heeft je sterk weerlegd. Je hebt niet inhoudelijk kunnen reageren. En de grote geleerde van ahlu-sunnah (sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi) heeft de aanvallen geprezen, de leraar van o.a. fawzaan en uthaymeen. Is voor mij voldoende om achter Bin Laden te staan. Of weet jij het beter dan deze grote geleerde?
salam alaikum
khadisja25 25-10-2004, 17:22 kun je ons trouwens ook uitleggen WAAROM je op de namen vertrouwd die abu kakkerlak heeft genoemd
Waar blijft je vredesgroet? Of ben je niet van ahloe-sunnah?
Abu qatadaah heeft je sterk weerlegd. Je hebt niet inhoudelijk kunnen reageren. En de grote geleerde van ahlu-sunnah (sjeikh Hammoed Al Uqla Asjoe'aibi) heeft de aanvallen geprezen, de leraar van o.a. fawzaan en uthaymeen. Is voor mij voldoende om achter Bin Laden te staan. Of weet jij het beter dan deze grote geleerde?
salam alaikum
Zwaard 25-10-2004, 17:40 .
Abu Kakkerlak ? Zeer jammer hoe Islamitische-zaken op spottende wijze aan de kaak worden gesteld!
Aboe Qataadah 25-10-2004, 18:04 broeder Familiy Salafy,
Blijf met respect praten ok?
En de levende shoyookh die deze amaliyaat goed heben gekeurd zoals ik eerder had aangegeven zijn:
Muhadith Sulaiman Ibn Naasir Al-`Ulwaan.
Sheikh Ali Khudair
Sheikh Naaser Al-Fahed
sheikh Abu Baseer Mustafa haleemah Al-tartoosi
Sheikh Abdel Aziz Al-Jarboo3.
Sheikh Abu Qataadah Al-Filisteeni
Sheikh Mohammed Ibn Saalim
Sheikh Hamd Al-Humeedi.
En deze `ulamaa hebben ook de grote Mujahid Sheikh Usama Ibn laaden geprezen
en zoals Sheikh Hammud Ibn Uqla (rahimahullah) zei:
Usama is een mujahid die strijdt op de Weg van Allaah volgens de Koraan en Soennah.
En je zegt hij is van Khawaaridj?
Noem mij aub 1 fundament van Usama die hij van de Khawaarij heeft.
Ik zal het alvast wat makkelijk maken.
Enkele oesoel al-Khawaarij:
verklaren degene die grote zondes pleegt als een Kaafir , dus bijv als je baard weghaalt of zinaa hebt gepleegd of rookt, of alchohol drinkt dan ben je een kaafir volgens hen
Usama doet dit niet!
Zij doden de Moslims en laten de Koeffaar met rust.
Usama strijdt tegen de Koeffaar en niet tegen de Moslims, steker nog als je ziet hoe die fake-selefies bezig zijn ze zijn alleen gericht tegen de Moslims, ze doen als of Koeffaar geen gevaar zijn, triest
Ontkennen van Asmaa wa Sifaat
Usama doet dit niet
Dit zijn een van de belangerijkste fundamenten van de Khawaarij.
En de saudische regering die lijken pas op Al-Khawaarij en de andere regeringen. Helpen de Koeffaar tegen hun eigen Moslimbroeders.
Zelfs onder dwang mag dat zelfs niet .
Imaam Al-Qurtubi rahimahullah zei:
Zelfs onder dwang, excuseert je niet om te vechten tegen je eigen Moslims broeders.
(tafseer Al-Qurtubi, volume 5 bladzijde 349)
Kijk naar Abu hajar A-Muqrin hij was gedood en 3 andere broeders door de Saudische regering om 1 kaafir! die kaafir was een enigeneer van Apaches helikopters van de amerikanen.
terwijl de profeet (sallalahu `aleihi wasalam ) zei:
Een Moslim mag niet gedood worden voor een Kaafir.
Wie heeft nu de fundamenten van de Khawaarij? de "Salafi" regering van "saudi" arabie of de Mujahideen die strijden tegen de Koeffaar>?
En oook al was Sheikh Usamaa niet op de juiste Manhaj we moeten aan hem kant staan en niet aan de kant vcan de Koeffaar
Ik heb diep respect voor deze grote Mujahid een voorbeeld voor alle Mujahideen.
Hij slaapt in de zand in de bergen in Afghanistan en heeft zijn eigendommen weggeven op de weg van Allaah hij kon ook lekker een mooie auto, meisjes een rustig leven leiden, maar nee hij heeft alles opgegevven om voor ons allen te strijden.
Wat hebben wij gedaan op de weg van Allaah? Helemaal niks en dan gaan wij vanuit onze luie stoelen deze Mujahideen bekritiseren?
Itaqoellah fie Sheikh Usama Itaqoellah!!
Wa salaamu `aleykoem
khadisja25 25-10-2004, 19:24 Barakallahufiek abou qatadah!:)
elmoettaqi 25-10-2004, 23:05 discussie die door gaan en never tot een eind komen
abou qatada je moet sheikh fawaz horen zijn doe3a brother wallahie akhie je gaat kapot huilen echt noer in zijn uitspraak van woorden van allah en zijn boodschapper vrede zijn met hem
Ahloel_Ather 27-10-2004, 01:08 Moge Allah swt cheikh osama beschermen
amine!
Moge Allaah hem leiden naar een oprechte inkeer, Amien!
Agie? Talbies is niet van Manhaj-us-Selefie, vrees jouw Heer
Nimr 27-10-2004, 06:51 Moge Allah swt cheikh osama beschermen
amine!
Allahuma ameen!