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UK Government Considers Banning Extremists Who ' Incite Hatred But Dont Advocate Violence' Announces TERFOR
May 26, 2013
MIM: UK PM David Cameron won the praise of US radical Islamist group ISNA for his statement after the Muslim terrorist murder which he outrageously proclaimed that Muslims and Islam had given "so much to our country".
It is also quite likely that the "moderate religious leaders" who will be involved with TERFOR will be Islamists masquerading as faux moderates.See "UK Government Springs Into Action Unveills New 'Moderate' TERFOR Strategy".
"ISNA applauds the sentiment expressed by British Prime Minister David Cameron that "This was not just an attack on Britain and on the British way of life. It was also a betrayal of Islam and of the Muslim communities who give so much to our country." http://www.isna.net/isna-condemns-violent-killing-in-the-uk-and-applauds-prime-minister-camerons-statement.html
The Prime Minister wants to stop extremist clerics using schools, colleges, prisons and mosques to spread their ‘poison' and is to head a new Tackling Extremism and Radicalisation Task Force (TERFOR) made up of senior Ministers, MI5, police and moderate religious leaders.
The high-powered group will study a number of measures, including banning extremist clerics from being given public platforms to incite students, prisoners and other followers – and forcing mosque leaders to answer for ‘hate preachers'.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330945/David-Cameron-launch-new-terror-task-force-stamp-religious-extremism.html#ixzz2UXPjGKAk
UK Gov Springs Into Action Unveils New "Moderate" TERFOR Strategy
Posted By Daniel Greenfield On May 26, 2013 @ 10:51 am In The Point
… because nothing frightens Muslim terrorists like misspelled acronyms.
TERFOR is the new government solution to fighting Islamic terrorism with moderate Islam. It stands for Tackling Extremism and Radicalisation Task Force. Could they have thrown another R in there? And get out the F. Unless the acronym is supposed to reference Therefore. As in Therefore We Will Go On Doing Nothing. Or I shrink my obligations, Therefore I am PM. Though I imagine it's supposed to make people think it's a Terror Force, when it's a Terror Farce.
But the UK government was just too busy to have the time in between arresting a whole bunch of Brits who said offensive things about Muslims on social media.
And then, like every other pseudo-conservative government, promised to really crack down on hateful preachers this time.
So this strategy will involve "studying" what to do. I'm all for thinking before leaping, but it's been almost 25 years since the Rushdie case. How long does it take to work out this strategy exactly and start deporting terror clerics?
For that matter there's no mention of actually deporting them. Just proposals to, presumably keep them from speaking at unis and somehow holding mosque leaders accountable. Considering that some of the worst offenders rely largely on social media and public gatherings, the proposal is worse than toothless.
And what happens when someone reports an Imam who supports terrorism?
Here's one basic disruption method, deport them.
Good. 25 years on and they're still studying the size of the problem. Let's get a few more committees on it. And roll out something called TERFOR to give the public the illusion that something is being done.
And then arrest an extremist 85-year-old British lady for shouting "Go back to your country" at Muslims.
Article printed from FrontPage Magazine: http://frontpagemag.com
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MIM: An announced intent to crack down on those who 'whip up hatred but do not advocate violence' as if there is a distinction between the two shows Home Secretary Teresa May's dangerous cluelessness regarding the jihadist threat to the UK which would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.
Terror in Woolwich: Theresa May moves to ban extremists who don't advocate violence
Coalition clashes over Home Secretary's plans to revive controversial ‘snooper's charter'
Radical Islamist groups which whip up hatred but do not advocate violence could be outlawed in the UK for the first time, under an attempt to curb the spread of hardline ideology being considered by the Government following the Woolwich murder.
Theresa May, the Home Secretary, warned that there were thousands of people judged to be at risk of being radicalised as she set out moves to deprive hardliners of platforms for their views. They include plans to ban more organisations accused of fomenting division and to tighten the rules on their access to the internet, as well as the revival of plans for a "snooper's charter".
But the moves threaten to provoke a freedom-of-speech row as organisations which stop short of advocating terrorism could be banned under the proposals, which will be considered by a Whitehall task force headed by David Cameron.
At the moment, the Home Secretary has the legal power to proscribe an organisation linked to terrorism, such as al-Muhajiroun, which was outlawed in Britain in 2010.
But she has no authority to act against organisations suspected of "inciting hatred and division" and ministers will consider introducing a lower threshold enabling her to act, Whitehall sources said.
However, ministers could run into problems producing a legally watertight definition of "hatred and division". The difficulties in this area are underlined by the controversy over the group Hizb ut-Tahrir. Mr Cameron called for its proscription six years ago, but it remains active and high profile.
Ms May also signalled fresh action to ensure messages preaching jihad are removed from the internet. She said that new police rules had led to more than 5,500 unacceptable postings being deleted, but she wanted to examine whether officers should be given further powers.
"One of the issues we need to look at is whether we have got the right processes, the right rules in place in relation to what is being beamed into people's homes," she told BBC1's The Andrew Marr Show.
The effect of the new banning threshold would be to prevent extremist clerics from visiting campuses and prisons, which are considered the most fertile recruiting grounds for radicalised men who could turn to violence.
Ms May said: "This is a part of the work the task force the Prime Minister has set up is doing. It's saying what are the powers we have at the moment, what new powers might we need in the future, let's look at this whole situation."
She also took a swipe at the BBC for allowing the radical cleric Anjem Choudary to appear on Newsnight last Wednesday. She said: "Anjem Choudary has disgusting views and I think it is right we look at how those views are being presented."
The Home Secretary provoked a full-blown coalition row after she insisted her "snooper's charter" plans to monitor internet use were essential to combat terror attacks in Britain.
Ms May has championed plans to require internet service providers to collect data about website visits, emails, mobile calls and messages on social media and Skype.
Although the moves would not cover the contents of messages, they provoked anger among civil-liberties groups and were vetoed by Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat Deputy Prime Minister.
But Ms May insisted: "I'm clear the law-enforcement agencies, the intelligence agencies, need access to communications data and that is essential to them doing their job."
Two former Labour Home Secretaries, Lord Reid and Alan Johnson, have backed her proposals and Mr Johnson suggested she should resign if she could not get cabinet backing for the stalled Communications Data Bill.
A former Tory leader and Home Secretary, Lord Howard, challenged Mr Cameron and Ms May to ignore coalition loyalty and reach out to the opposition.
"If the Liberal Democrats maintain their opposition to it, I think there's a case for the Conservative Party passing that legislation with support from the Labour Party," he told the BBC. "The Prime Minister's got to act in the national interest to give the protection to people of this country that they need and deserve from horrible attacks of this kind, and I think the Communications Data Bill could be an important element in that programme."
Mr Clegg came under fire from one of his own peers, Lord Carlile, the former independent reviewer of anti-terror laws. He said: "The reason [the Bill] was vetoed, as Nick Clegg, the leader of my party, knows very well, was purely political because of demands from inside the Liberal Democrats."
He added: "We don't know whether if that Bill had been enacted two years ago it would have prevented this incident.
"What we can certainly say is that it might have done and what we can absolutely say for certain is that if the Communications Data Bill, with the safeguards that were agreed in the last session of Parliament, was introduced then it would be very likely to prevent some attacks of this kind in the future."
But a spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister warned: "There is currently no suggestion that the proposals in the draft Communications Data Dill would have had any relevance to the sickening events."
Thousands at risk of radicalisation
Thousands of people in Britain could be at risk of being radicalised, Theresa May has warned.
The Home Secretary said around 500 police and security officers were investigating the "horrific murder" of soldier Lee Rigby. She said "all the indications" pointed to a lone wolf-style incident rather than a wider planned operation.
Asked if she believed there were thousands at risk of radicalisation in the UK, she replied: "Potentially."
Mrs May defended the "excellent" work of the security and intelligence agencies following claims that mistakes were made in the handling of the two suspects, identified as Michael Adebolajo and Michael Oluwatobi Adebowale. A friend of Adebolajo has also claimed the suspect was approached by MI5 six months ago and asked if he would work for the security service.
Mrs May said the security services worked in a "variety of ways".