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Jihad Watch & Dr. Daniel Pipes : New Jersey family murdered by Muslims who pretended to be Christian converts
January 22, 2005
MIM: Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch published inside information on his website which shows that the murder of the Armanious family was perpetrated by people they knew, namely Muslims who had pretended to have been converted to Christianity by them, and had come back to exact revenge according to Shari'a law . For more go to the Jihad Watch website:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004740.php
According to MIM sources law enforcement is in 'total lockdown' and will not answer any queries regarding the Armanious murders . If indeed Muslims are found to be behind the slaughter Dr.Pipes wrote that;"others will not want to see this horrifying development for what it is". The virtual media blackout of the case appears to show that this is already the case.
For background and newspaper articles about the murder go see:
Jihad in New Jersey :Coptic Christian family slain and mutilated - 'Islamic hate' cited as motive.
Van Gogh murder times four ?
This is from Robert Spencer at Jihad Watch:
Inside information on the New Jersey murders
A close friend of Hossam Armanious, the Coptic Christian who was brutally murdered in New Jersey along with his family, is the source of this information, which comes to you exclusively from Jihad Watch:
The Armanious family had inspired several Muslims to convert to Christianity — or thought they had. These converts were actually practicing taqiyya, or religious deception, pretending to be friends of these Christians in order to strengthen themselves against them, as in Qur'an 3:28: "Let believers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful -- he that does this has nothing to hope for from Allah -- except in self-defense."
It was these "converts" who knocked on the door of the Armanious home. Of course, the family, not suspecting the deception, was happy to see the "converted" men and willingly let them in to their home. That's why there was no sign of forced entry. Then the "converted" Muslims did their grisly work.
The nature of the warning? The murders send a signal from the Muslims to the Copts: we are going to behave here the same way we behaved in Egypt, and the First Amendment and American law enforcement will not protect you. Don't expect America to keep you safe from us. The oppression and harassment you thought you had left behind in Egypt has now come to you.
This means, if Armanious's friend is correct, that this is indeed America's Theo van Gogh murder: indication that all Muslims in the nation do not, as we are supposed to believe, unanimously accept the parameters of American pluralism. That at least some are willing to enforce Sharia penalties right here, right now.
But there are so many nominees for the Walter Duranty prize this time that most Americans have no clue of what's going on. Duranty, of course, was the New York Times reporter who knowingly covered up information about the genocidal famine Stalin caused and fueled in Ukraine, and won a Pulitzer Prize for his efforts. The Pinch Sulzberger Times of these dark days should dedicate the whole paper to Duranty's honor, and put his picture on the front page right next to "All the News That's Fit to Print."
Posted at January 20, 2005 05:05 PM
Go to the Jihad Watch website for comments and more information onf this story:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004740.php
MIM: Dr.Daniel Pipes explains the horrific implications of the Armanious murder in his weblog and sees it as a warning that Muslims ;"do not as we are supposed to believe, unanimously accept the parameters of American pluralism. That at least some are willing to enforce shari'a penalties right here right now."
Dr. Pipes concludes with this chilling comment;
Assuming Spencer's information is accurate it raises a most alarming prospect of the importation of sha'ria to America. I suspect however that the government, media academy and churches. and others will prefer not to see this horrifying development for what it is."
The Armanious Family Massacre I have held off commenting on the chilling murder of the four Armanious family members on Jan. 14, 2005, in Jersey City, New Jersey, not being sure of its motive. I held off despite the New York Post on Jan. 16 drawing a connection between the massacre and the father's anti-Islamic Internet comments; and, one day later, WABC noting that a cousin of the slain family had worked as a translator for the prosecution in the trial of Lynne Stewart (the leftist radical lawyer accused of helping Omar Abdel Rahman, the Egyptian Islamist leader, to get his messages out to his terrorist acolytes).
But today comes news from Robert Spencer at Jihad Watch explaining what happened, and I can stay silent no longer.
First some background: The Armanious were immigrants from Egypt, refugees from the anti-Christian situation there. Thinking they had reached security in the United States, they began to exercise their religion and their freedom of speech in a way unimaginable in Egypt. They spoke their minds and even engaged in efforts to convert Muslims. Based on information from a "close friend" of Hossam Armanious, the father, Spencer explains:
The friend goes on to explain that many Copts see the family's murder as a warning to Copts in the United States:
Spencer concludes that the Armanious's fate is akin to Theo van Gogh's murder in Holland, an indication that Muslims in the United States "do not, as we are supposed to believe, unanimously accept the parameters of American pluralism. That at least some are willing to enforce Sharia penalties right here, right now."
Comment: Assuming Spencer's information is accurate, it raises a most alarming prospect of the importation of Shari‘a to America. I suspect, however, that government, media, academy, churches, and others will prefer not to see this horrifying development for what it is. (January 20, 2005) Permalink
Part one of this article can be seen at:
Jihad in New Jersey :Coptic Christian Family slain and mutilated : " Islamic hate " cited as motive
Murder of a New Jersey Christian Family [Part 2]
Perhaps it's time to take a second look at providing freedom and liberty to those who have come here to destroy us.
Since the initial reports of the ritualistic butchering of the Coptic Christian Armanious family, the mainstream media have been remarkably silent. Barely a whisper, if that, has been murmured over their airwaves, online or in the print media. If there is any real ongoing investigation (in the spirit of fairness I assume there is), next to nothing is being reported.
Shortly after the murders, conflicting reports were disseminated to the public. One account advised that the father Hossam Armanious had his "pockets turned inside out" and money from his wallet had been removed but, jewelry was left in the home. Commenting on this, prosecutor Edward De Fazio said: "Whether that was the primary motivation, we don't know. To think that someone would commit this type of crime for a small amount of money does not make sense." Another report stated that both money and jewelry were stolen. However, the stolen jewelry angle was discounted early on by a deacon, Fred Ayed, of the family's church. Ayed advised, upon the initial discovery of the family's bodies that the jewelry was still in the Armanious house. Are the other stories of robbery meant to misinform the public and dispel any fears it may feel? If so, this apparent dismissal of reality will only be for a very short period of time. The truth that Islam has begun its test case for extermination of Christians in the United States will be fully revealed soon enough.
Another truth is that Muslims have persecuted and murdered Egyptian Coptic Christians for centuries; with intensification over the last 10-15 years. Islam is, also, telling the Coptics that no matter where they go, they will be "tracked down" and eliminated; even in the USA. Suffice it to say, this appear to be exactly what happened to the Armanious family. Of particular note are comments made by the Director of the Islamic Center of New Jersey, Ahmed Shedeed: "We Muslims in America are getting sick of this crap. Why should we have to apologize for or make a defense of something we had nothing to do with?" The problem, of course, continues to be that ‘moderate' Muslims don't seem to comment much (if at all) about the ongoing beheadings or any of the other grisly murders and genocides (most recently and notably in Sudan) committed by their brethren. Instead, they use the US' First Amendment's Free Speech clause to their own advantage, while denying it to others.
Jihad Watch has an additional piece of exclusive information, which may prove to be useful in understanding these recent slayings on our shores. A close friend of Hossam Armanious advised that Hossam was deeply involved with converting Muslims to Christianity. The friend further advised Jihad Watch that it was some of these "converts" who were allowed into the Armanious home, the night of their murder. He, also, said that these individuals were practicing "taqiyya" or religious deception. Their pretense was their conversion, as their purpose was murder. Shortly thereafter, the friend advised, these counterfeit "converts" engaged and indulged themselves in the assassination of the Armanious family.
Instead of the more civilized gauntlet, Islamo-fascists have thrown down the knife and sword to the United States. They have initiated and are implementing another tactic of their overall strategy of worldwide Islamic domination. Be advised that all Muslim countries are theocracies, which allow no freedoms-religious or otherwise. The Muslims in the United States enjoy more liberties than they could ever possess in their homeland countries. Yet, with their consistent lack of any strong condemnation of the Islamo-fascist sects, they appear to be giving their tacit approval.
In the United States of America, we have historically provided safe haven for both the downtrodden of the world and those who have escaped other countries and come to us to express their religious freedoms. Perhaps it's time to take a second look at providing said freedoms and liberties to those who have come here to destroy us.