MIM: Amazing how a few millions dollars reward and US promises of other perks enables the Pakistanis periodically to 'manage' to find and kill terrorists in Waziristan even those not listed in the local phone book. The United States was involved in the terrorist operation- and surely paid the Pakistanis to carry be able it out, while also trying to play down their involvement and present Musharraf as America's ally in the war on terror!.
As usual a win win situation for Musharraf. He gives the terrorists a haven in Waziristan- a situation similiar to a wildlife reservation- and in return for a substantial bribe from the United States, orders his men or allows the Americans to 'poach' one from time to time.
"...In June, CIA Director Porter Goss said he had "an excellent idea" where bin Laden was hiding but complained that the al-Qaida leader had taken advantage of "sanctuaries in sovereign states" beyond American reach. Although Goss did not single out the Pakistani government as the problem, U.S. and European officials said bin Laden had almost certainly taken refuge in semiautonomous Pakistani tribal areas near the Afghan border..."
"...The real point here is that Musharraf is not making any dent in the issue that matters — which is that the extremists are still operating rather freely in Pakistan and feel as comfortable there as ever," said M.J. Gohel, chief executive of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a London think tank that specializes in security issues in South Asia. "What you need is to completely eradicate and eliminate the entire extremist infrastructure, but nothing has been done there. What has been done is the capture of individuals now and then to please Washington..."
"....In public statements, Pakistani officials declined to say whether Rabia had been killed by an American missile, although several privately confirmed the report. The use of such tactics is highly controversial in Pakistan, especially in the remote tribal areas where there is strong opposition to the presence of any U.S. military forces.
"Here is what I can tell you: Our troops were not involved in the operation, but this is one of the areas where our intelligence and operational cooperation with U.S. services is most intense," said a senior Pakistani intelligence official in the northwestern city of Peshawar, which is near North Waziristan.
"Comments on media reports that it was a Predator strike would invoke sovereignty issues," the official added. "Let's enjoy the fact that al-Qaida has lost another key person..."
"....Musharraf has recently acknowledged that he is not eager for bin Laden to be caught in his country, where he is seen as a hero to many Pakistanis and probably is more popular than Musharraf, who seized power in a 1999 military coup. "One would prefer that he's captured somewhere outside Pakistan, by some other people," he said in an October interview with Time magazine.
Counterterrorism officials and analysts said Pakistan serves not just as a hiding place but as an effective base of operations for al-Qaida and other Islamic radical networks, giving them the ability to plan or carry out attacks worldwide..."
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White House Seeks to Confirm Death of Al-Qaeda Commander
Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- The White House is trying to confirm reports that a senior al-Qaeda commander, Hamza Rabia, was killed in a missile attack on Pakistani tribal territory, a senior official said today.
Pakistan's Dawn newspaper reported yesterday, without saying where it obtained the information, that Rabia was among five killed in a missile attack in Asoray village, east of North Waziristan.
"We have seen those reports out of Pakistan," Stephen Hadley, President George W. Bush's national security adviser, said on Fox News. "At this point, we are not in a position publicly to confirm that he is dead. But we're obviously -- if he is, that's a good thing for the war on terror."
The Washington Post reported today that Pakistan's president, General Pervez Musharraf, said Rabia was killed on Thursday. Quoting Pakistani intelligence sources, the Post also reported that "U.S. operatives" fired a missile from an unmanned Predator drone.
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Last Updated: December 4, 2005 15:40 EST
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Foreigners still in Waziristan, says minister
ISLAMABAD, Dec 4: Interior Minister Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao said on Sunday that the death in north-eastern Pakistan of an Egyptian described as a leading Al Qaeda operative was a big setback for the terror network.
"It is a big blow to Al Qaeda," Mr Sherpao told AFP, adding that operations were continuing to track down Al Qaeda members in North Waziristan where Hamza Rabia is said to have met his end.
Asked if other key Al Qaeda members were still hiding in the area, the minister replied: "We just don't know, but certainly there are some foreigners hiding there." Officials have said that Hamza was killed with four other militants while handling explosives late Wednesday.
But Al Arabiya television late Saturday said it had been contacted by a person claiming to be from Al Qaeda denying that Hamza was dead.
"An official from the Al Qaeda group has denied, in a telephone conversation with the Al Arabiya channel, that Hamza Rabia has been killed," a presenter on the Arab channel told viewers.
The caller said five people were killed in the explosion. There were two local men, two Tajiks and an Arab named Suleiman al-Moghrabi.
NBC News in the United States reported that Hamza was killed by a CIA missile attack.
According to a CIA list of most wanted Al Qaeda men operating in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Hamza has a $5 million bounty on his head.
According to the CIA, the English-speaking Egyptian was a close associate of Al Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri who is wanted in connection with 9/11 attacks.
President Pervez Musharraf insisted in Kuwait on Sunday that the head of operations for the Al Qaeda network has been killed.
"Yesterday I said (his death) was 200 per cent confirmed. Now, I say it is 500 per cent confirmed," Gen Musharraf told state-run Kuwait News Agency.
US National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said on Sunday that Washington was looking into reports Hamza had been killed but could not confirm his death.
"(Hamza) was involved in planning two assassination plots against (President Pervez) Musharraf," Mr Hadley said. "So if he has been killed, that's a good thing for the war on terror.
"It's part of the effort to kill or capture the major Al Qaeda leadership."
Asked whether the US had helped ‘take out' Hamza, the adviser said: "We've obviously been supporting Pakistan.
"President Musharraf has been very aggressive in dealing with the Al Qaeda and Taliban presence in Pakistan.
"We have helped him in terms of providing intelligence and cooperating with his forces, and obviously this is something that would be an important thing for Pakistan, an important thing for the United States."—Agencies
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.S. deals a blow to al-Qaida in Pakistan
By Craig Whitlock and Kamran Khan
The Washington Post
Ayman el-Zawahri, shown here, used Hamza Rabia as a go-between. | |
KARACHI, Pakistan — The killing of a high-ranking al-Qaida commander in a U.S.-led operation in a remote corner of Pakistan marks an advance in the struggle to locate and eliminate the network's leadership, which has managed to replenish its ranks after suffering key losses in recent years, counterterrorism officials and experts said Saturday.
Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, said that Hamza Rabia, a top operational planner for al-Qaida, was killed Thursday in an explosion in a remote tribal area along the border with Afghanistan. Although there were conflicting reports about details of Rabia's death, Pakistani intelligence sources said U.S. operatives killed him and four others with a missile fired by an unmanned Predator drone.
Pakistani and U.S. officials described Rabia as a major figure in al-Qaida's murky hierarchy and said he would have been responsible for plotting large-scale attacks against U.S. or European targets. At the same time, however, his rapid rise in the network shows how al-Qaida has been able to regenerate after similar setbacks in the past.
Intelligence officials said Rabia, an Egyptian, had replaced Abu Faraj al-Libbi, another high-ranking al-Qaida leader captured in May in Pakistan. Al-Libbi, in turn, had taken over the role previously held by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the architect of the Sept. 11 attacks who was also caught in Pakistan in March 2003.
"It's a success story, but al-Qaida has turned into a multi-headed hydra: You chop off one head and another head takes its place," said Magnus Ranstorp, a specialist in al-Qaida at the Swedish National Defense College in Stockholm. "It's a good thing they got him, but I'm sure there are others in the wings."
And there is no indication that U.S. or Pakistani forces have come closer to locating their biggest targets: al-Qaida founder Osama bin Laden and his Egyptian deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, still believed to be hiding in the region.
The Bush administration had no public comment on Rabia's death. The administration has publicly praised Pakistan as a reliable partner in the fight against terrorism. But top U.S. officials have become increasingly frustrated with what they see as limited cooperation from the Pakistan military and intelligence services in the hunt for bin Laden.
In June, CIA Director Porter Goss said he had "an excellent idea" where bin Laden was hiding but complained that the al-Qaida leader had taken advantage of "sanctuaries in sovereign states" beyond American reach. Although Goss did not single out the Pakistani government as the problem, U.S. and European officials said bin Laden had almost certainly taken refuge in semiautonomous Pakistani tribal areas near the Afghan border.
Musharraf has recently acknowledged that he is not eager for bin Laden to be caught in his country, where he is seen as a hero to many Pakistanis and probably is more popular than Musharraf, who seized power in a 1999 military coup. "One would prefer that he's captured somewhere outside Pakistan, by some other people," he said in an October interview with Time magazine.
Counterterrorism officials and analysts said Pakistan serves not just as a hiding place but as an effective base of operations for al-Qaida and other Islamic radical networks, giving them the ability to plan or carry out attacks worldwide.
British investigators have found that some of the suicide bombers responsible for the July 7 subway and bus bombings in London had spent time in Pakistan before the attacks. U.S. officials have also complained that Taliban forces fighting the U.S. military in Afghanistan are able to regroup and find fresh recruits across the border in Pakistan.
"The real point here is that Musharraf is not making any dent in the issue that matters — which is that the extremists are still operating rather freely in Pakistan and feel as comfortable there as ever," said M.J. Gohel, chief executive of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a London think tank that specializes in security issues in South Asia. "What you need is to completely eradicate and eliminate the entire extremist infrastructure, but nothing has been done there. What has been done is the capture of individuals now and then to please Washington."
The United States and Pakistan recorded a series of high-profile captures in the months immediately following the Sept. 11 attacks. Abu Zubaydah, a top al-Qaida recruiter and member of bin Laden's inner circle, was arrested in Faisalabad in March 2002. Ramzi Binalshibh, a key Sept. 11 plotter, was caught in Karachi in September 2002. Six months later, Pakistani agents grabbed Mohammed while he was sleeping in a house in Rawalpindi, not far from the headquarters of the Pakistani military.
The arrests fueled hopes that investigators were closing in on bin Laden and would be able to completely dismantle the al-Qaida central leadership. But in the last two years, the search for ranking al-Qaida figures has sputtered while others have emerged to lead terrorist attacks elsewhere.
Rabia, an Egyptian, was killed Thursday along with four associates in a missile strike in the tribal region of North Waziristan, officials and a witness said Saturday. The incident was first reported by the Pakistani newspaper Dawn, which cited witnesses in asserting that the men had been killed by rockets fired by an unmanned U.S. surveillance drone known as a Predator.
In public statements, Pakistani officials declined to say whether Rabia had been killed by an American missile, although several privately confirmed the report. The use of such tactics is highly controversial in Pakistan, especially in the remote tribal areas where there is strong opposition to the presence of any U.S. military forces.
"Here is what I can tell you: Our troops were not involved in the operation, but this is one of the areas where our intelligence and operational cooperation with U.S. services is most intense," said a senior Pakistani intelligence official in the northwestern city of Peshawar, which is near North Waziristan.
"Comments on media reports that it was a Predator strike would invoke sovereignty issues," the official added. "Let's enjoy the fact that al-Qaida has lost another key person."
Rabia's name does not appear on the FBI's list of most wanted terrorists. But Pakistani officials described him as a major catch and a close associate of al-Zawahri, the second-ranking al-Qaida leader and a fellow Egyptian.
They said Rabia has been the focus of an intense manhunt since the arrest in Pakistan last May of al-Libbi, a Libyan who U.S. intelligence sources described at the time as al-Qaida's third-ranking leader. Al-Libbi and Rabia are suspected of orchestrating two assassination attempts against Musharraf in 2003.
The interrogation of Libbi by U.S. and Pakistani intelligence operatives "confirmed that Abu Hamza Rabia was in touch with Ayman al-Zawahri and he was an important connection between al-Zawahri and various al-Qaida cells, at least until last year," said another Pakistani intelligence official, who is involved in counterterrorism work in the tribal areas. The official added that contact between Rabia and al-Zawahri appears to have ceased during the past several months.
A third Pakistani intelligence official said that for the past few months, Rabia had been "playing hide-and-seek with the Americans, who were on his tail. He was a fast mover who shuttled between the tribal areas and Afghan border areas frequently."
According to Dawn, Rabia died along with four other men, two of them also Arabs, when an explosion destroyed the mud-walled compound where they were staying in the village of Asoray near Miran Shah, the administrative capital of North Waziristan. Local authorities claimed the men died while making bombs. But the newspaper cited witnesses who said the house was destroyed by missiles around 1:45 a.m.
Spokesmen for the U.S. military and the U.S. embassy in Islamabad said they had no information on Rabia or the circumstances of his death.
Washington Post reporter Dafna Linzer and researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report
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Egyptian believed responsible for global planning died last week in Pakistan, government says. The circumstances of his death are unclear.