This item is available on the Militant Islam Monitor website, at http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/340
Dutch cabinet member Geert Wilders:"The threat is growing every day if we do not call a halt to the importation of Islam"
December 7, 2004
----------------------------------------------------------- MIM: Translation by Beila Rabinowitz director of Militant Islam Monitor Islam is a facist threat Islam preaches facist dogma and is threatening to eradicate democracy. Said Geert Wilders in an interview with the Telegraaf newspaper on Sunday. According to Wilders immigration and the "import of Islam according to family reunification" must be called to a halt. I will not not be worth my salt if I come with sweet stories". The politician is calling for the closure of mosques which encourage terrorism. He says that he is very worried about the political correctness of politicians in Holland ."The electric blanket is turned up to 8 and everyone is just sleeping soundly. In the meantime there are measures being taken in countries next door to us.The threat is growing with the day if we do not call a halt to the importation of Islam". The cabinet minister has received numerous threats because of his views regarding the integration of Muslims to Holland. He said he realizes he will face more threats because of his statements. "But I won't be silenced by anyone and will continue". According to Wilders Mayor Cohen must resign, because of the problems in Amsterdam's Diamond district. A married couple was intimidated into fleeing their home by a group of Moroccan Muslims. "The Mayor comes and tell us that it was an enormous defeat". "It is a scandal that the head of the most important city in this country admits and gives in to that". He has to pack his things and quit mmediately." Wilders wants to start a large movement at the end of this year or the beginning of next year which will consist of "Fortuynists,liberals,and conservatives". In the Political Barometer segment of the program NOVA Wilders had 3 seats. In the poll which was taken by Maurice de Hond at the beginning of this week the total had risen to 10. http://nokiko.howardshome.com/news.aspx?pid=852005 -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.nieuws.nl/bericht/4/30260 Islam is facistisch bedreiging De islam predikt fascistisch gedachtegoed en dreigt de democratie om zeep te helpen. Dat zegt Tweede-Kamerlid Geert Wilders zondag in een interview met De Telegraaf. Volgens Wilders moet een halt worden toegeroepen aan 'de import van de islam door migratie en gezinshereniging'. "Ik zou geen knip voor de neus waard zijn als ik nu opeens zoetsappige verhaaltjes ga houden." De politicus roept op om moskeeën waar wordt aangestuurd op terreur te sluiten. Hij zegt zich zorgen te maken over de politieke correctheid van politici in Nederland. "De elektrische deken staat op acht en men slaapt rustig verder. Terwijl in omliggende landen gewoon wel maatregelen worden genomen. De dreiging groeit met de dag als we geen halt toeroepen aan de import van de islam." Het Kamerlid is meermaals bedreigd vanwege zijn opvattingen over de integratie van moslims in Nederland. Hij zegt te beseffen dat hij met zijn uitspraken mogelijk nieuwe dreigementen op zijn hals haalt. "Maar ik laat me de mond door niets en niemand snoeren en ga gewoon door." Volgens Wilders zou burgemeester Job Cohen van Amsterdam moeten opstappen, naar aanleiding van de problematiek in de hoofdstedelijke Diamantbuurt. Daar werd een echtpaar door Marokkaanse jongeren uit hun huis gepest. "Komt burgemeester Cohen nog vertellen dat het een enorme nederlaag is. Schandalig, de belangrijkste stadsbestuurder van ons land die zoiets toegeeft, moet gewoon onmiddellijk zijn biezen pakken." Aan het eind van dit jaar of begin volgend jaar wil Wilders een 'brede beweging' oprichten, bestaand uit 'fortuynisten, liberalen en conservatieven'. In de Politieke Barometer vrijdag in het televisieprogramma Nova stond Wilders op drie zetels. In de peiling van Maurice de Hond van begin deze week haalde hij tien zetels. ----------------------------------- MIM:This article was written 5 weeks after the murder of Theo van Gogh. Translation by Beila Rabinowitz director of MIM Wilders hindered in the formation of new party by Volkskrant internet editors 12/7/04 Former VVD cabinet member Geert Wilders feels that he is being severely hindered in his attempts to form a new political party. As a result of the threats and the security problems he has to face , potential adherents and House members have been frightened away. This is the way Geert Wilders described it Tuesday afternoon in an interview with the NRC Handelsblad. In addition Wilders has the impression that the AIVD -Internal Security Services are advising people to not to get involved with him .According to Wilders one cabinet colleague was "actively phoned by the AIVD with the request to tell them everything he planned to do together with me". The ex VVD'er is also very angry about the NOS News report that said that everyone who he recruits for his new party will be at risk in the same way he is. The News based their report on information which they obtained from the Internal Security Services. Wilders found that the government should have negated the news story by declaring it to be pure nonsense. He suspects that the news was provided by the Internal Security Services -the AIVD, although the service has denied this. Wilders says that he has gotten confirmation the the AIVD was behind this story ' from different sources'. Of the six appointments he had with possible assistants, 5 were cancelled, according to Wilders. 'People are just plain scared'. He refuses in spite of this to believe that he is actively being undermined. "I just cannot believe that we live in such a country". he said. The prominent cabinet member is now becomeing more worried about his own safety .He scoffed at the beuracracy of the House, who are according to him, are the reason why his request to find a different seat in the chamber has not been honored. Wilders present seat is directly under the public tribune.Anyone with malicious intent can simply jump from the tribune and be on his neck. Lower House chairman Weisglas reacted with the announcement that the security services did not deem it necessary .'If they say that he must be moved. then it will happen that very instant', according to Weisglas. Since October 14 Wilders has had body guards because of threats on his life.In spite of this he says he is considering; "leaving the country for a while". The politician asked the advice of the National Coordinator for Guards and Security, and Minister Donner. While the NCCB told him it that, in the short term it would be better for him to"dissappear for while" the NCCB cautioned him against leaving the country. The NCCB believes that upon his return the threat would be even bigger. According to Wilders the advice of the NCCB was partially given to him by Minister Donners (Justice). The minister is bothered by the fact that Hirsi Ali is in hiding.because this is giving the impression that the Justice department is not capable of guaranteing her safety. Wilders says of his talk with Donner. 'There was something in Donner to the effect of 'That won't happen to me a second time.' 'Donner said that he would rather resign then advise a cabinet member to leave the country'. Since the murder of Theo Van Gogh Hirsi Ali has not been in the House or been seen in public. It is unclear when she will resume her duties as cabinet member. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.volkskrant.nl/denhaag/1102399972181.html | |||||||||||||||
Wilders 'belemmerd' bij vorming nieuwe partij | |||||||||||||||
Van onze internetredactie | |||||||||||||||
DEN HAAG - Voormalig VVD-Kamerlid Wilders voelt zich ernstig 'belemmerd' bij zijn pogingen een nieuwe politieke partij op te richten. Door de bedreigingen en veiligheidsproblemen waar hij mee te maken heeft, worden potentiële medewerkers en aspirant-Kamerleden afgeschrikt. Dat stelt Wilders dinsdagmiddag in een interview met het NRC Handelsblad. | |||||||||||||||
Wilders heeft bovendien stellig de indruk dat binnenlandse veiligheidsdiensten mensen in zijn omgeving ontraden met hem in zee te gaan. Zo is een collega-Kamerlid volgens Wilders 'actief gebeld door de AIVD met het verzoek alles te melden wat hij met mij zou ondernemen.' De ex-VVD'er maakt zich zeer boos over een melding van het NOS-Journaal dat iedereen die hij werft voor zijn nieuwe partij dezelfde veiligheidsrisico's zou lopen als hijzelf. Het Journaal baseerde zich daarbij op bronnen bij inlichtingendiensten. Wilders vindt dat de overheid het bericht meteen als 'pure onzin' af had moeten doen. Hij vermoedt dat het bericht de wereld in is geholpen door de AIVD, hoewel de dienst dat heeft ontkend. Wilders zegt echter 'van diverse kanten' te hebben vernomen dat de AIVD er wel degelijk achter zat. Van de zes afspraken die hij deze week met mogelijke medewerkers had, zijn er volgens Wilders vijf afgezegd. 'Mensen worden gewoon bang'. Hij weigert desondanks te geloven dat hij actief wordt tegengewerkt. 'Ik kan me niet voorstellen dat we in zo'n land leven.' Het veelbesproken Kamerlid maakt zich steeds meer zorgen om zijn eigen veiligheid. Hij laakt de bureaucratie van de Kamer, die er volgens hem de oorzaak van is dat zijn verzoek om een andere plaats in de vergaderzaal nog steeds niet gehonoreerd is. Wilders' zetel bevindt zich nu pal onder de publieke tribune. Kwaadwillenden kunnen vanaf de tribune gemakkelijk in zijn nek springen. Tweede-Kamervoorzitter Weisglas reageert met de mededeling dat de beveiligingsdiensten de situatie hebben afgewogen en een verhuizing van Wilders niet nodig achten. 'Als zij zeggen dat hij verplaatst moet worden, dan wordt hij datzelfde moment nog verplaatst', aldus Weisglas. Sinds 14 oktober wordt Wilders persoonlijk beveiligd in verband met de bedreigingen tegen zijn persoon. Desondanks zegt hij te overwegen 'een tijdje het land te verlaten'. De politicus vroeg daarover advies aan de Nationaal Coördinator Bewaking en Beveiliging (NCBB) en aan minister Donner. Hoewel de NCBB hem meedeelde dat het 'op korte termijn' voor Wilders beter zou zijn een tijdje te verdwijnen, ried de NCBB hem een vertrek naar het buitenland toch af. Bij terugkeer in Nederland zou het gevaar namelijk juist groter zijn, meende de NCBB. Volgens Wilders was het advies van de NCBB mede ingegeven door minister Donner (Justitie). De minister zou ermee in zijn maag zitten dat Ayaan Hirsi Ali is ondergedoken, omdat daardoor het beeld ontstaat dat Justitie niet in staat is haar veiligheid te garanderen. Wilders over zijn gesprek met Donner: 'Er zat bij Donner wel iets in van: dat gebeurt me geen tweede keer. Donner zei dat hij nog liever zou aftreden dan dat hij een Kamerlid zou adviseren weg te gaan.' Hirsi Ali is sinds de moord op Theo van Gogh niet meer in de Tweede Kamer geweest of in het openbaar verschenen. Wanneer zij haar werkzaamheden als Kamerlid zal hervatten, is onduidelijk. --------------- Translation by Beila Rabinowitz director of MIM Geert Wilders: 'We are at war' Independent cabinet member Geert Wilders declares that Holland is at war.He said this in a page long interview with the paper Metro. According to him Muslim fundamentalists have profitted from the "culture of drinking tea" in Holland . The only way to deal with the problem is for the government to act with forceful determination. The statements of Vice Minister Zalm were discussed during the interview. in which he declared that Holland was at war with radical Islam. Those words didn't sit well with many politicians.Later Zalm nuanced his statements, something which Wilders regrets. Based on article 103 of the Constitution Wilders wants to make it possible to arrest a group of 150 (known) Muslim fundamentalists as a preventive measure.A provision is also contained in that statute for the minister in Holland to declare ' a state of emergency' In this way the group can be arrested. Wilders" I don't find this to be a drastic measure considering the situation in which we find ourselves, and I think this should have been done yesterday". According to Wilders it is absolutely ridiculous that 150 potential terrorists are walking around freely in Holland. The cabinet member declared;" These are radical Muslims who have chosen to overthrow the rule of law with violence"."The AIVD knows who they are and is following them". "I find that they must be arrested as a preventative measure to protect families in Holland"."Arrest them, strip then of their Dutch nationality when possible, and deport them". Wilders comments have caused great consternation among young Muslims in Holland. They are worried about the atmosphere which is prevalent in Holland at the moment.According to Wilders the Muslims can help not only themselves but the society as well. "The bulk of the Muslims are moderate, but one doesn't hear them enough. Their critical abilities have to become stronger within the group. They have to make it known that radical Islam is unacceptable." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.ml75.nl/?page=2&id=75760 Geert Wilders: 'We zijn in oorlog' -------------------------------- Translation by Beila Rabinowitz director of MIM Wilders: Formation of party is hindered "The independent cabinet member Geert Wilders is being hindered by security problems from forming a party. He said this in an interview today with this paper... ...If he decides to go into hiding he must sign a release declaring that it is of his own free will.The free will is relative, he said... Wilders calls the news reports that anyone who joins him will be running the "same risk" as he himself "a direct attack on the democratic process". ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.nrc.nl/binnenland/artikel/1102399815039.html Wilders: oprichting partij wordt belemmerd DEN HAAG, 7 DEC. Het onafhankelijke Kamerlid Geert Wilders wordt door problemen met zijn veiligheid belemmerd bij het opzetten van een partij. Dat zegt hij vandaag in een gesprek met deze krant.
Het van de VVD afgescheiden Kamerlid heeft naar eigen zeggen zijn situatie op 25 november besproken met minister Donner (Justitie, CDA), die verantwoordelijk is voor de beveiliging van politieke personen op nationaal niveau. Toen heeft hij de vraag aan de orde gesteld of hij net als het Kamerlid Hirsi Ali (VVD) moet onderduiken. Wilders wordt wegens aanhoudende bedreigingen sinds 14 oktober beveiligd. Donner heeft hem volgens Wilders aangeraden dat niet te doen, omdat hij na een langere periode van afwezigheid door publicitaire ophef bij zijn terugkomst juist meer dreiging zou riskeren. Wel suggereerde Donner volgens Wilders dat de problemen zouden kunnen worden opgevangen als hij na een periode van afwezigheid zou aankondigen uit de politiek te stappen. Dat wil Wilders niet. Als hij toch wil onderduiken moet Wilders volgens eigen zeggen een verklaring ondertekenen dat dit vrijwillig is. Die vrijwilligheid is volgens hem heel relatief. Donner laat via een woordvoerder weten dat het ministerie ,,geen enkele mededeling over beveiligingszaken doet". Wel geldt volgens de woordvoerder een algemene regel: ,,De beveiligingsfilosofie gaat er van uit dat iemand te allen tijde en waar dan ook een adequate en op maat gesneden beveiliging krijgt." Volgens Wilders hebben mogelijke toekomstige Kamerleden afspraken met hem afgezegd, nadat verschillende anonieme bronnen uit inlichtingendiensten in het NOS-journaal op 1 december bevestigden dat medestanders een ,,vergelijkbaar veiligheidsrisico" zouden lopen als Wilders zelf. Wilders spreekt over ,,een directe aantasting van het democratische proces". Volgens Wilders is een collega-Kamerlid ,,actief gebeld" door een medewerker van de Algemene Inlichtingen- en Veiligheidsdienst met het verzoek ,,alles te melden wat hij met mij zou ondernemen". Voor de AIVD is het volgens een woordvoerder van de dienst ,,onmogelijk daarop in te gaan, omdat het raakt aan de beveiliging van personen". Wilders blijft deze week weg uit de Kamer, kondigt hij aan. Zijn plaats in de vergaderzaal, bijna recht onder de publieke tribune, acht hij niet veilig. Kamervoorzitter Weisglas laat weten dat ,,alles wat de beveiligingsdiensten op beleidsniveau aan ons vragen wordt uitgevoerd". -----------------------------------
------------------------------ 'The security situation in the House is distressing' by our reporter Frank Poorthuis Translated by Beila Rabinowitz director of MIM The Hague: Geert Wilders is getting a safer place in the House .But."I will come back only if I have answers regarding my safety and that of my associates and sympathisers". The Lower House member Geert Wilders is staying in a secret location and has not appeared in Parliament this week. The Volkskrant spoke to him by phone. "Should we regard you as being in hiding?" 'You can call it whatever you want' "When are you coming back?" "I now have another seat in the Parliament because I found mine to be unsafe. But it is not just about me. I first want to speak to Balkenende,Donners, and Remkes over my security and that of my assistants and sympathisers. If that goes satisfactorily I will come back. I hope that will be quickly. But I am not coming back until I have satisfactory answers regarding my safety." "The security situation in the Parliament is distressing. Last week I had foreign journalists who visited me in my room. They were picked up by an assistant and delivered to my room. But the people told me with their mouths agape that not one of the four bags which they had with them had been opened or checked.Only because of my protest is the procedure for visiting me changed.But that is not the case for the rest of the Parliament. They are doing their best, I must say, but the place is not water tight." What are the problems which you have encountered in forming a new party? "It began last week on Wednesday when the news reported that anyone who associated with me would be running the same security problems which I have. Yes, the people who want to join me are sitting with their wives and children on the sofa and they see that on the news and don't take this the wrong way : it is not hard to understand why they have cancelled their meetings with me". "People are also telling me that officials from the Ministry of Internal Affairs have advised them not to get involved with me. I had six appointments, of which five were cancelled. It was only 4 days prior that I had registered my party officially.I am just in the beginning phase of my party." You still have time. "Look, it seems as if the cabinet is just sitting it out for the ride .But the cabinet could also fall earlier. And if that happens I don't just need a good program, I need a good list of people. I was just beginning to make appointments with the candidate members on my list". "The cabinet should have said to me; "You have security problems, what can we do to solve them? Not have members of the security services leak that things are difficult with me. The government has offered me security but I also have to be able to guarentee the safety of my assistants and sympathisers." "Do you think there was a deliberate leak?" 'Let it not be true. I refuse to believe it but I cant rule out anything' You suggested in questions to the House that your situation was being trivialised. Yes they are doing that too. Minister Donners suggested that I regard the security guards as a form of status symbol. Can you describe your life at this moment? "I am constantly surrounded by security guards. Whenever I have to go somewhere I go in a convoy of armoured cars.This week I had an appointment with a sympathiser for my party. We met in a hotel room.Don't misunderstand me. I can ask anything.I am grateful that it still can be done. But I dont know how the minister can still act this way." I dont want to sound pathetic but I wouldnt wish what I am going through on anybody. The Minister should not be ridiculing that with his words. When he comes home he can change into his slippers while his wife dishes out mashed potatoes and greens. That is not how it is for me." How long do you think this situation will continue? "It can be a long time I was told." Is it worth it? "I won't give in. If I do that it will be exactly what the people who started this want.I will continue and I wont take back one word which I have said." "Of course once in a while I ask myself "Geert Wilders do you want to live this way? But in the same moment I say -You will continue and go even further." But how can you start a party this way? It is almost certainly going to fail. "I refuse to consider that. It will suceed. It will suceed" What do you think of the action that Jan Marijnessen has done to call upon you and Ayaan Hirsi Ali at the beginning of each House session? 'That is fine but is is not just about Ayaan and me. It is about free speech and the democratic process". Some people think it is time you went back to the House.In other countries parliamentarians also function under difficult circumstances. 'People can say what they want.Ayaan and I have made our own calculations.No one can determine our security situation except we ourselves.People should not judge us in the situation in which we now find ourselves". -------------------------------------
http://www.volkskrant.nl/binnenland/1103094525026.html
|
This item is available on the Militant Islam Monitor website, at http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/340